Venting my frustrations

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Venting my frustrations
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Mon, 06-11-2007 - 2:28pm

First, I have to say that I really think most men have got to be really moronic or something.

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Registered: 02-22-2007
Wed, 06-13-2007 - 11:37am

So I wasn't wrong. Thank you for your response.. I hope it all gets better for you.
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Registered: 10-14-2003
Wed, 06-13-2007 - 12:18pm

>I hope it all gets better for you.<

Thanks.

You know what would make me really happy right now? Being able to just go home after work and not have a ton of homework to do, essays to write and presentations to prepare. I just wanna be able to go home and watch "House" and drink a beer for god's sake!! Is that too much to frekkin ask?? :)

Ah well. In time.

Thanks again. :) Take care.

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Registered: 07-11-2001
Wed, 06-13-2007 - 5:42pm

It pisses me off too! All these girls claiming to be 'high-maintenance', and almost claiming it as a badge of honour. I didn't even know the term until I moved to the USA. I just wonder where they get the money for the lifestyle, especially since most aren't heiresses.

These are the girls who don't pick up the poop when their little dog's make one either. They are all around my neighbourhood.

I just wonder what makes them think they are so special and why are men so drawn to these women? I just don't think I would have many friends left if I had that attitude, but maybe I am wrong?

I dated a guy who told me that after dating a girl for about 2 weeks, she asked him to buy her a Coach bag when they were in the mall. He didn't, but he still hung out with her a little longer. This girl also had no real job, a lot a credit card debt (about $10,000), and had pretty much lived off her ex-fiancé beforehand. What gives? The thing that's crazy is they do find guys who will support this.

A friend of mine's brother has his GF telling him she wants him to buy her a new car. I didn't even ask that of my ex-H. I went out and bought my own. Again, what gives? No wonder men treat the decent women like pooh!

Beach

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Registered: 05-30-2007
Wed, 06-13-2007 - 7:51pm

I am a little behind . . . but these women make a living off men who “buy” them . . . I think that has a name .. . hmm . .
And the men do buy them, just as lazy and shallow . . what is the name for that? Trick . . something like that? LOL

I don’t think you’re missing anything. I know I’m not. (-:

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Registered: 05-05-2007
Wed, 06-13-2007 - 8:50pm

>I feel like I've put together a pretty good package that is myself and yet nobody (I would want - and even some who don't completely meet my standards) want to even TRY to get to know me.<

"In business as in life you don't get what you deserve, you get what you Negotiate."

-- Chester L. Karras

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Registered: 12-03-2006
Thu, 06-14-2007 - 5:38pm

I partially agree with that statement. The issue is how? There're countless books on how to play the game of love. Unlike business negotiation, although there are certain guiding principles, in love there are so many variants. What work for some doesn't work for others and even more important than in business is the timing and luck factor which I think account for 90% of the success of a hookup.

I think business negotiation is easier to put into a recipe. Mainly the main and most essential ingredient for lasting business success is a good product (there's no other way around it). Then once you have a good product, marketing can help with selling. There's some luck involved but I think you can follow certain rules and there's less emotions involved. In love being a great person is not necessary for getting a mate. It helps but not neccessarily. You may say a "bad" person who knows how to play the game (negotiate) can get mates but it won't last. That is somewhat true. In the business work, a bad product won't get support for long. In a marriage, because of emotional attachment (which is illogical many times), a spouse may not leave the "bad" partner. And b/c of emotional attachment many people will put up with a lot of BS.

So it's not black and white. Most things in life aren't black and white.

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Registered: 05-30-2007
Thu, 06-14-2007 - 5:55pm

You know I am in sales? I think it is closer to the sales process than to "negotiation". You sell her / him on the fact you are a worthy person. And like in sales, at least in my business, you better be selling the genuine product and doing it with integrity or you wont be allowed back through the door the second time, much less develop a ten year relationship. (Common in this business.) The way I see it, until some level of relationship is established, what is there to negotiate?

I don't compare love to business, way to complicated, and like you I find the "rules" in business make everything easier. I will however say my business has made me a more desirable human being just because it does assist in approach, presentation, understanding and assessing value. (-:

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Registered: 05-05-2007
Thu, 06-14-2007 - 6:33pm

>There're countless books on how to play the game of love.

The purpose of writing a book is to SELL it, not educate people.

Love is not a game, its not "chemistry" (or physics, or biology) and most certainly not an ego trip. It does not happen at first sight, after the first conversation, the first date, the first "love"making , or the twentieth. To truly and deeply love and appreciate another person takes longer than most realize.

When you look at every person you meet through the prism of a potential mate, they will never measure up to your expectation.

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Registered: 01-26-2006
Fri, 06-15-2007 - 12:31pm
Well said. You actually seem to be quite the insightful guy. You were also right about not getting what we deserve in life...amen to that, haha. :)
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Registered: 07-11-2001
Fri, 06-15-2007 - 1:15pm

It would be nice to meet a guy who may treat me to something nice other than them looking to me to buy them cr*p! nd no, I am no pimp daddy, but they think (hope) I'm their Sugar Mamma.

Most men I meet these days are very lazy and very shallow. What gives with that?

The only thing I am missing is the lobotomy I need to get me through this century!

Beach

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