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| Tue, 08-21-2007 - 8:59pm |
Do you all think women in good jobs seem indifferent towards men, especially in management?
I just don't see that "desire" in them?
I think thats what makes a lot of men angry and they don't want to see women in higher positions, right?
I just don't see that "desire" in them?
I think thats what makes a lot of men angry and they don't want to see women in higher positions, right?

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>>fifth-grade method of arguement.
GASP !?! I think I am going to faint. No cml, "say it ain't so" . Couldn't have been. Not YOU. Unless you wrote it to prove a point. Water, water , someone please.. huff puff. huff puff :-)
Hostile ? LOL. I may come across that way sometimes but I am actually one of the friendliest people out there ! Really.
As for "you would probably say you deserve to have x,y, and z. ", no, I wouldn't say I *deserve* anything. If I have things to my advantage, such as an education, a decent job, good looks (which is debatable) or other, I would use them to acquire what I *want*. Nothing gets handed to me just because I deserved it. In my younger and stupider days of naivet'e, I used to think people didn't deserve this, or people deserved that,..etc. But at the ripe old age of 34, I know 'deserve' has no context in the real world. Little kids in Sub Saharan Africa don't "deserve" to be sitting hungry for days with flies buzzing around their heads. But they do. And sending them food is not the solution (but that's a whole different topic..)
You may *want* something, but that's different.
Edited 8/30/2007 3:00 pm ET by capegirardeau
>>GASP !?! I think I am going to faint. No cml, "say it ain't so" .
Oh all right, all right, I spelled a word wrong. :) It's actually one of the few I usually get confused...but no, unfortunately I wasn't trying to prove a point...if I were a liar I could have pulled that off, though, haha. :)
saying you deserve something means that you deserve to have it. i.e. to say someone deserve an award means you think they've done something to merit that award vs. someone who hasn't done anything to deserve it, like criminals who kill deserve to be in jail. Now does that mean the person who deserves an award always gets it? NO! or criminals who deserve jail always go to jail. NO. Likewise I feel that b/c I've worked hard to make myself a desirable person I deserve to have someone with those same desirable qualities. Whether or not I can get that is another task. Just as you say innocent children don't deserve to starve. Even a turnip knows innocent children do starve. But the issue is just because reality does not reflect the ideal doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to express what the ideal is. What you essentially said was noone can state what one deserve from life. How about I told you you don't deserve to have an education, or good health, or a rs with a wonderful man (whatever wonderful is to you). I got your point ad nauseum that reality does not reflect the ideal but that wasn't the point of my original post.
I am proud to say again I have worked hard to keep myself in shape physically, mentally, and financially and I DESERVE to have someone with similar qualities. You may not feel you deserve it but that's OK, you're entitled to your own opinion just as I am. I think if you just learn to understand what people intent to say and not pick on sematics, you'd be a much better communicator.
Edited 8/30/2007 6:36 pm ET by capegirardeau
I totally disagree. I've interviewed hundreds of women in high positions who've not only expressed a high regard for men, they've attributed much of their success to the men in their lives who have mentored or supported them.
When Avon did a survey of thousands of women business owners worldwide, do you know what they agreed was the biggest factor in their sucess? A supportive husband.
Barbara Stanny, author of Secrets of Six-Figure Women.
http://www.barbarastanny.com
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