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| Thu, 10-07-2004 - 11:03am |
I don't know if it's just me and I have lived here in Germany to long, but I've noticed these topics more and more in the last years and month. It would interest me if it's normal now and fashion or just not. I'm going to start out innocent and then get a little bit more intimate here. I am just curious, because when I was dating years ago, some of this was totally taboo and I would write them off as wierd, perverted or as loafers ( not in that order) lol.
Is he the gentleman? Does he open the doors? Pay for drinks still or is everything getting split, or you footing the bill?
How much time does he take to pamper himself? What does he do to make himself younger? Example: Cream himself, workout, gel his hair and keep it neat and tidy?
Does you SO or man in your life, or your last dates shave his body parts? I mean not only chest and face, but EVERYWHERE? What parts does he shave?
Does he expect you to shave your female parts and do you? A little, Almost everything or everything?
Did he talk about sex before you even met, or did he talk about sex on the first date? Interesting for those internet chatters... Was this ok for you, or how did you feel?
Is he open about the "M" word, porns or playboy?

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I guess I am not certain what you mean, because we have to tip toe a bit. When you say "everything underneath" do you mean shave COMPLETELY and is that the "norm"? I don't know if it's the norm, but I know it's common. Is it the norm to shave all your "bits and pieces" completely and leave the top just trimmed, again, I don't know but that's what I do.
I HATE the idea of a guy who's shaved. There are certain things I personally like to do for J, that I simply wouldn't if he were a hairy beast there. But he's pretty moderate to lightly hairy, so it's no bother. And I personally would feel a little werid about there being no hair there. Just me. I am with you there.
Is he the gentleman? Does he open the doors? Pay for drinks still or is everything getting split, or you footing the bill?
Yes, he is very much the gentleman. Always opens doors. I've offered to pay, but he wouldn't let me.
How much time does he take to pamper himself? What does he do to make himself younger? Example: Cream himself, workout, gel his hair and keep it neat and tidy?
Don't know too much about this one except that he has a moustache and it is always neatly trimmed and he is always clean shaven.
The rest of the questions I can't answer, because it's too early. At the risk of sounding really stupid, I have to say that I didn't know men shaved "down there". No man I was ever with ever did, although, looking back, sometimes I wish they would have LOL. I never heard of that until you mentioned it here. Guess I'm a little out of the loop. As for me, I was only asked by one man to shave, and I did, but it was uncomfortable, so he settled for nicely trimmed.
As for talking about sex, we haven't actually talked about it at length, just kind of mentioned it here and there in conversation, and most innuendo kind of thing. We have this running joke about the "third date rule". He never heard of that before, and he thinks it's hilarious. I never heard of it either, but my BIL told me about it. But he's only 34, so I think it's a younger generation thing, not for us old folks. In the past, I only dated one guy that was really open about talking about sex. We didn't talk about it on the first date, but we talked about it before we did it.
I don't know about masturbation, porn or playboy either. Hasn't come up in conversation yet. As for my past relationships, some liked porn, some didn't. The last guy I dated was 43 years old and never saw a porno movie. I was surprised at that.
I have to ask a question here. Again, at the risk of sounding real stupid, what is metrosexual? Man, I really am out of the loop.
Donna
That's my take. Anyone else?
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But...
He doesn't wear designer clothes, he doesn't care if his belt matches his shoes (and I don't either). He gets his hair cut every 6 weeks in a conservative style and shaves his face, and smells clean...like soap not cologne...although he'll put some on for special occasions. He does trim his nose hair thank god!
Here is a definition I found on wordspy.com of a metrosexual...
metrosexual (met.roh.SEK.shoo.ul) n. An urban male with a strong aesthetic sense who spends a great deal of time and money on his appearance and lifestyle.
—metrosexuality n.
Edited 10/12/2004 6:55 pm ET ET by orange_clouds
He works in the service industry, surrounded by women, and the only other man he works with is gay. He knows more about flowers, colors, theming, music, mood lighting and food than 99% of women in this world. And for his job, he better, or he'll be replaced by a woman who does tomorrow.
I think he's educated, sophisticated, sensitive and danged good at his job. We KNOW society defines him as a metro-sexual - and neither of us really care!
Mindy
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1. It's kind of a hit or miss when it comes to gentlemen. Most men are gentlemen at least on the first date...opening the car door, restaurant door, paying for the bill, etc. However, more often than not, after that first date...they lose those traditional ways.
2. A lot of men now are very concerned about their appearances. They use gel, they work out once or twice a day, they use creams and lotions, fragranced shampoos, etc.
3. Yes, most men shave not just their face, chest, arms, but also their...well...ya know...wink wink. I happen to appreciate this A LOT BECAUSE....
4. They don't expect a woman to shave, but prefer it. Some shave just bikini lines...I just shave the whole thing. I think it's much easier than trying to form lines and what not.
5. Almost EVERY guy I've dated has discussed sex on the first date. I'm a very sexual person though, so I always have wondered if they just pick up on that and know they're not going to offend me by mentioning sex so quickly. Which, by the way, it doesn't. I love to talk about sex as much as a guy does.
6. "M", porn, and playboy are ALWAYS brought up...and if it's not...but you ask about this stuff...they've got no qualms about answering.
I didn't read the other responses...but here's what I've experienced. This is also the age group of 23-30...I haven't dated anyone older so I don't know if they're more likely to be more conservative/less conservative.
Fun poll!!!!
Shelley
This was a great quiz, but still hasn't answered what I was looking for. No one mentioned this, but it would interest me. Is this normal behaviour of shaving yourself totally underneath now normal or a fad? And any reason why the guy is so fascinated by that? Is it the fantasy that it's a young girl not yet in puberty idea? What's the view on this? ....
I do feel wierd being totally shaved, because I am not yet used to the idea of why they rather have it that way.
Catherine, even though removing hair down there is getting to be
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