Reading a past post about "Mooning"....

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Reading a past post about "Mooning"....
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Fri, 11-26-2004 - 8:10am

Can someone please explain to me what the big deal is about mooning?
Maybe I am just different, but like Min., when I was a child, I used to moon all the time. I was even older, like 7 with my little neighborhood friend. Later I swear somewhere someone has a tape of me mooning out of a truck on the way home from Spring Break at age 17, so half of texas has seen my butt. When my friends and I go out and we sometimes get really drunk, the whole crowd of about 6-10 women moon. It's silly, but is it that DISTURBING? OK, at my age, yes, I agree, it's a bit disturbing, but really, we are talking about kids at the age of 4-7? Is that such a big deal? When I was a kid in school, we still got paddled. When I was in Elementary, I still got to kiss my little boyfriend or hold his hand. When I was in Elementary, the only thing I got a bad report on was talking and once flicking the teacher off because my sister toldme my teacher would like that. LOL.
I know maybe I have been living here to long, but I think the whole thing about nudity, blah, blah, blah is just a BIT OVERRATED in the states and prude. Alex's Dad who is american, had a serious cow, when we went to the public pool and to the indoor pool, because the dressing rooms are co-ed and at the pools it's either bring a suit or not. No big deal. It's everyone's choice and therefore, when the kids get older here in Germany, they don't have sex until they are much much older, usually over 18. They grow up with this stuff and I for sure am glad that I am more open minded. The TV is filled with nudity of commericals. It's a part of life here. God created us nude. I am not one of the avid nudists, I don't do it and I don'T allow my oldest to do it anymore, until she is with her friends and not in my area, but Nina only has swim trunks like the other girls and no top. You might all be going OMG, how can she think this way, but I just think some things are being blown WAY out of proportion in America, in the schools and society in general. Same thing about the Holidays, no Halloween, etc. Same type of thing. Sometimes I feel the states is moving backwards instead of forwards. Sure we should have our morals, etc., but somewhere a line should be drawn with how far we're going with being just plain laced up. I'm probably the only one that thinks this and I am sorry for stepping on anyone's toes, but it's just occured to me, that I am going to have some serious problems when returning to the states. I state my mind, I am open to sex, nudity and discuss it without feeling embarrassed, I have different political and religous views as the majority of people in the States do now. I still curse, even using god's name. I was raised that way and people still do it here. Everything has become so SENSORED! And I have even noticed that the bible is often being more abused and taken out of text for those that feel they are god fearing christians.
Yet the only thing that still seems to remain wide open and totally acceptable is weapons.

My little Nina is a mooner and we are trying to get her to stop, but the apple doesn'T fall far from the tree. Alex mooned with her best friend until she was 6 and then we explained the dangers of it while doing it on the streets and after several warnings she did get punished. But sending a kid to the principles, counceling, dentention or suspension I feel is a bit far fetched. Especially for a kid that only did a 1/4th moon the first time. He's in Kindergarden for heavens sake. These are still children. What's going to happen down the line? Imprisionment to children that act like children? Aren't the prisions filled enough already.

Like stated above, I know I have just stepped on serious toes, I apologize, but I do not mean too, I am just seriously confused of where our rights and independence and land of the free is really going? I love my country, America has always been an icon of my life, but returning soon, after 10yrs of being here, I am worried for myself and my children, that we won't have any freedom left as we did once before. That things have just changed WAY to much and that we'll look more like aliens, than the American that we are. I don't want to fit in with everyone else, just because I feel I have too, to be accepted. My sister does that and I no longer know who my sister is. The only thing she does is constantly reprimand me that it is no longer acceptable to do this, or that, or say this or that and I better start getting used to that. GREAT! I am feeling like I am no longer the American I have always been proud to be.

I tell my sister, what happened to the way things were and she just says "things have changed, get used to it." It doesn't sound as if anyone is happier about it, they just accept it. How far, is too far?

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Hi Catherine

I can only speak for myself. I know for me, I wouldn't be sooo upset if my kids mooned someone then I would be if they did it repeatedly and had maybe other behaviors that were getting them in trouble.

I think you're right in many respects but I also don't think school is the place for little boys and girls to be pulling their pants down, no matter how innocent.

That's just my two cents.

Tara

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I agree with you that the "American Way" of life and our constant preoccupation with political correctness is getting out of hand...i.e. the big hoopla over Janet Jackson exposing a breast (covered by a pastey no less!) at the Superbowl and the recent controversy involving a commercial with a football player and character from "Desperate Housewives," in which her naked back was exposed, is way out of control. My opinion is that the weeks of discussing it, replaying it and arguing and complaining about it does alot more damage than the actual event itself which lasted no more than 30-60 seconds.

I think sending a kindergardner to the principal's office or suspending him for a quarter moon is the same kind of overreacting that causes more damage than the event itself. But then again I'm not the one calling the shots. But it seems more and more these days that the ones calling the shots are catering to the people who get upset about these things and make a big deal about it. They get the spotlight, they end up on the news, so they get what they want.

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I also think Dylan's school was way out of line sending him to the Behavior Modification Class just because he showed 1/4 of his butt. Yeah, he did it twice so he needed to be punished, but another room altogether and suspension??? No. I completely disagree. I was upset at first because I thought it was a full moon and because he's so little and got in such bad trouble. No one bothered to tell me the REAL situation and that another child instigated it to begin with on both occasions.

What also chapped my butt is that the little girl the boys "mooned" (if that's what you want to call it...a 1/4 moon is NO moon), her parents are very uptight and would have every member of the school board on the phone yelling at them about this. They'd try to track us down and get on us about it too. I have to say, if it were my son or daughter that were mooned, I'd just take it in stride because it's just a butt after all. If someone flashed frontal nudity at either of them, I'd be more offended.

Shane and I have told Dylan not to show his butt anymore and that other people don't appreciate it so he needs to stop. His teacher even said how uptight the little girl's parents are and how she had to delicately bring it up right away as they exited the school so they wouldn't hear it from their daughter first and have a cow. I say, "GET A LIFE!!!"

But that's just me....

Mel

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Mon, 11-29-2004 - 11:29am

I don't think it was the mooning itself, but more the disrespect of it all.

Kim

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Mon, 11-29-2004 - 12:42pm

Yeah, I'd tell my kids the same thing....just act like it's no big deal UNLESS it's everyday. I also agree he needed to be punished because he did it twice, but when he had only done it once, there should have been a much milder punishment than the Behavior Room. Poor kid must have been scared to death. He's not used to stuff like that. He's always so good and he got into bad trouble for doing what a typical 5 year old does. They should have called me or sent a note home so I could deal with him myself.

I think Dylan will do much worse things later on. He's a boy, first of all and he's going be influenced and instigate a few things. His teacher told me her son who is in kindergarten in another class told his teacher he didn't have to mind her and he's been caught peeing on the playground several times. So I know I can take comfort knowing teacher's kids misbehave too and get the same treatment as mine. He got the behavior room too.

I'm taking it all in stride. He got punished and he promised never to do it again. And so far so good!

Mel

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Mon, 11-29-2004 - 12:52pm
LOVE the little mooners in your post!!! LOL!!