Women's rights in childbirth!

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Women's rights in childbirth!
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Sun, 06-06-2004 - 4:55pm
See the below article.
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Registered: 01-30-2004
Sun, 06-06-2004 - 5:24pm
This one's for the girls!!!
I think the government already has to much power as it is.....in regards to telling us how to live our lives.
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Registered: 01-21-2004
Mon, 06-07-2004 - 11:07pm
There has recently been a lot of activism focused on pressuring women to breastfeed exclusively instead of feeding their babies formula (now they are telling us what to do with our breasts!). I wouldn't be surprised if women who feed baby formula to their infants, instead of breastfeeding, are locked up in jail. OK we all know breastfeeding has health benefits for the baby. Society however, is OBSESSED with controlling women's bodies.
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Registered: 01-30-2004
Mon, 06-07-2004 - 11:13pm
I agree with you 100% I don't believe anybody should have the right to tell us (or the guys either) what to do with our bodies. And there are different reasons why different people can't or shouldn't breastfeed and no government entity should even try to force the issue or make a woman feel guilty for not doing it...as society sometimes does.


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Wed, 06-09-2004 - 12:48pm
Title: If I were Empress of Earth...

Every human would be involuntarily sterilized or fed birth control from infancy. Becoming a parent would require a license that could only be obtained after going through a rigorous batch of qualifying exams. Parenthood would be a privelege granted only to the worthy, NOT a right of anyone with functional genitals. All unlicensed pregnancies would be terminated immediately. No appeal would be possible.

Licensed parents who proved incapable of the task of parenting properly would have their children removed immediately, and would be unable to get another license, ever. The children would be given to people who qualified for a parenting license, but proved incapable of producing children biologically.

Aren't you all glad I'm *not* Empress of the Earth?

In the real world, no, I don't think the government should have a say in how a woman proceeds through childbirth. That's up to the woman--it is her body and her choice. At the point of birth, as far as I am concerned, the mother's opinions and life are more valuable than the infant's. She should be free to do with them what she will.

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Registered: 06-12-2004
Sun, 06-13-2004 - 12:13am
Wow, that poor woman! I wonder, would they still have done that to her if she didnt have good medical insurance? Luckily, I belive ladies have nothing to fear, as birth is a miracle in which no one but God can control. Although I do have to admit, I can understand (Understand, not agree) this in the case of all these women that are mentally unstable.. selling their kids for drugs, driving them off cliffs, etc. Even then I would suggest institutionalized care, so that the mother would not harm herself, either. Perhaps even better than that.. I say if the government would like to get involved, let them offer free, anonymous sterilization.
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Registered: 07-01-2003
Sun, 06-13-2004 - 1:42pm
If having natural childbirth was a threat to her own life and the life of her unborn child, then the government does have a right to involve themselves in it. I think that would fall along the lines of child endangerment. I don't think the whole story was told here. A baby is a living, breathing creature. If a woman is going to do something regarding childbirth to endanger the life of her child, the government should get involved. These stories go deeper than pregnancy choices. The government won't be telling women when, where and how to have their children. If a woman says no to a C-section and her child dies - the woman should be brought up on charges. The woman was foolish and did something that cost an innocent child his or her life. I don't see where the government will be taking anything away from us. Women out there should have enough common sense to know if the MD says the C-section will save your child's life then she should do it. Furthermore, unlicensed personnel shouldn't be delivering babies or offering services to pregnant women. I don't see the harm of fallacy in any of these stories. If a MD told me the only way to go was a C-section, I'd do it to save my child's life. I think people are nuts these days.
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Registered: 01-21-2004
Mon, 06-14-2004 - 9:58am
>If a MD told me the only way to go was a C-section, I'd do it to save my child's life.

Do you always do what other people tell you to do? Do you think doctors "know everything"?

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Registered: 07-01-2003
Mon, 06-14-2004 - 11:26am
Doctors know more about medicine, medical science and saving lives than you or I do. In the articles listed, it seems as though these women should have listened to their doctors. In thoses cases, it seemed like the doctors did know what was right for their patient! Eight years of medical school following 4 years of unpaid residency and additional schooling for specialties such as obstetrics, gynecology or Internal medicine - you bet your life I'd listen to a doctor who told me a procedure would save my life or the life of my child. I've been in the field of medicine for over 10 years. Usually those people who choose to ignore their doctor's advice pay the ultimate price with their health or life. No, I don't always do what people tell me to do unless it is medical advice from a licensed physican. There's always the smarty pants who thinks they know more than the doctor. Then then they are sick and get hospitalized or are on their deathbed - they certainly wished they had listened to their doctor who really DID know more than them about medicine. How many years did you go through? You think you know more than doctors do? You think the woman in the news who's child died because she refused to have a C-section knew more about medicine than the doctor? Her child would still be alive today if she had.
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Mon, 06-14-2004 - 12:51pm
I don't think you were reading the initial post correctly. Regarding that story about the woman whose doctor told her she needed a C-section, she went ahead and had natural childbirth, contrary to his instructions, and the baby was fine. And so was she. Where are you getting the story about a baby who died?
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Mon, 06-14-2004 - 10:34pm
There was an actual case on the news a few months back where a woman refused to have a C-section and her baby died. She was later charged with a crime. Plus there was more than one story on the inital post.

Here we have these two stories from the inital post:

In Salt Lake City, an acknowledged cocaine addict with a history of mental health problems resisted having the operation for about two weeks before acquiescing. One of the twins she was carrying died during the delay. The mother was charged with capital murder but ultimately pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of child endangerment. She was sentenced to probation.

In April, prosecutors in Pittsburgh charged an unlicensed midwife with involuntary manslaughter for failing to take a woman to the hospital when her baby began to be delivered feet-first. The child died two days later. The midwife said she had been trying to honor the mother's wishes to have the baby at home.

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