Faith and Feminism, the God Women Need

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Faith and Feminism, the God Women Need
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Thu, 04-14-2011 - 12:21pm


I posted this on the Religion Debate board, but felt it could be of interest here, as well, perhaps? ;)

"The Panel Discussion Question for 4/13/11:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/on-faith/post/faith-and-feminism/2011/04/11/AFlcBqWD_blog.html

Faith and feminism:

“The discrimination against women on a global basis is very often attributable to the declaration by religious leaders in Christianity, Islam and other religions that women are inferior in the eyes of God,” former President Jimmy Carter said last week. Many traditions teach that while both men and women are equal in value, God has ordained specific roles for men and women. Those distinct duties often keep women out of leadership positions in their religious communities.What is religion’s role in gender discrimination?"


And here is Jason Pitzl-Waters is co-founder and Projects Coordinator of the Pagan Newswire Collective. He writes daily for the popular Pagan news site The Wild Hunt:

The God Women Need: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/on-faith/post/the-god-women-need/2011/04/13/AFPoGRWD_blog.html

A lot to think about, given some of the conflicts we have today going on not only in this country, but around the world...and some we call "cultural" with religious "roots." Personally, for me, this is one big reason I left Christianity as a whole, after being raised Catholic and also trying out another version of Christianity, and also trying out Zen for several years. Just finally found the "separate but equal" meaning really unequal and less than, or the interpretation of belief and the leadership that backed it up, was self-damaging as female in this lifetime, in the long run. :| Thoughts/comments? ponder.gif



Blessings,

Gypsy

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Thu, 04-14-2011 - 10:06pm

I was lucky that I wasn't raised as a Christian. I wasn't raised in any religion, actually, and my mother was a feminist before the women's movement. So I learned early on that I could be whatever I wanted to be, that I could work and still be feminine, that I didn't have to marry and have children if I didn't want to, etc. I never grew up with the "God the Father" image. However, when I did become a Pagan, I didn't follow just a Goddess or make the Goddess more important than the God. For me personally, I need the balance of the Goddess and the God. I need the masculine and the feminine and one reason why I became a Druid is because of the Celtic view of women. Celtic women had equal rights with the men, they could be powerful in their own right, could be warriors and leaders, etc.

I remember when women first came to Paganism in the 70s and the debates that sprang up around the ideas of unequality in the Judeo-Christian religions. Many of those women focused only on the Goddess and didn't even consider there being a God as well. To me, that didn't make sense, since the world is made up of male and female, darkness and light, sun and moon, day and night, etc. There can't be one without the other. It was fine with me that other women only wanted to follow the Goddess. I'm not in the position to tell other people what they are to believe or how to follow their own paths. But for me, the God is just as equal and important as the Goddess.

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Fri, 04-15-2011 - 11:21am

i-agree.gif I found, having been raised Catholic, and conditioned to male domination in Gods and hierarchy and organization, that the need for Goddess, for the sacred feminine, was intense for me. But I learned of the need for balance through the concepts of yin and yang in my years practicing Zen. So, when answering the call of the Goddess in later years, I always believed in the God as well. Like you, I believed both energies are needed. I continue to believe and practice my religion with both a Goddess and God for this reason. Fractured and only worshipping male -- or female -- Gods is unbalanced and leads to imbalances and abuses culturally, as history has and is still demonstrating, and to the spiritual second class citizenship.



Blessings,

Gypsy

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Wed, 04-20-2011 - 4:25pm

For me, I believe that Tao or whatever you want to call the Deity, has no gender. That it is a combination of male and female, ying and yang. For God to be a man, there must also be a Goddess, because ying can not and does not exist without yang, and so they are one in the same. We are all one. Each of us has both femmine and masculine aspects ( for instance we have testosterone in our bodies just like men, only in a different proportion) We are made up of the same elements that make up animals, trees, stars... just in different amounts

We are one with the cosmos and one with "god",

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