Phase I not recommended for Athlete?!

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Phase I not recommended for Athlete?!
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Wed, 01-07-2004 - 5:48pm
I just read on the web that the Doctor who designed SBD does not recommend phase I for Athletes. I guess this answers my lack of energy and inability to get half my regular performance in the Gym. I m done with my 5th day of Phase I and will check my weight end of the week. However I am curious if anyone knows the breakdown of carbohydrates, protein, and fat in a typical Phase I day.

I know that an active adult needs about 55%- 65% carbohydrates in their daily diet, about 15%-20% protein, and 10%-15% fat.

I doubt this can ever be achieved through SBD phase I. so I guess the point is to have very little workout or none while on phase I. Since phase I is only two weeks that is not a problem for most people.



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Wed, 01-07-2004 - 9:12pm

I know that an active adult needs about 55%- 65% carbohydrates in their daily diet, about 15%-20% protein, and 10%-15% fat.


Actually those look like the

Susan :)

 

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Wed, 01-07-2004 - 9:38pm
I think the real question is WHY would an athlete want to be on the SBD in the first place? Athlete's are not overweight and already eat healthy. Phase I and II are merely a means to get to the point (phase III) where you make healthy eating a habit for the rest of your life.

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Registered: 03-19-2003
Wed, 01-07-2004 - 9:55pm
True, if you aren't trying to curb your cravings or trying to lose weight, you might want to start in phase 3?

Susan :)

 

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Wed, 01-07-2004 - 10:08pm
I have to disagree with you. This accusation of the food pyramids is not too accurate :~)

What makes a nation obese is lack of activity. We are meant to use our body for most things we do but now we use the car, elevator, escalator, sit on the chair, then sit on the couch for the rest of the evening munch potato chips and then go to sleep. I m not very much into figures. I rather follow what my body tells me and I think we all feel that to workout we need a certain level of Glycogen in the blood. That's why you eat an apple before going to the gym usually (NO??).

As for the fluid theory, it is not the case with me as I drink a lot of water during the day and 1 litre when exercising.


"It's also a good idea to eat some low-glycemic carbs, such as low-fat yogurt, oatmeal, or pumpernickel bread, before a sustained workout. Try to eat at least two hours before exercising so you'll have a good supply of energy."

I thought pumpernickel bread and oatmeal are not part of Phase I!! Are they now allowed?

or is this an adjustment because phase I is not meant for people who work out?

I wont be doing any workout while on phase I the reason is that when your body needs energy it looks first for Glycogen (which can assist the burning of fat) but when it does not find it, your body has to choose between burning fat alone or burning muscle alone.

However, without Glycogen in the blood it is much easier to burn muscle than fat.

This is how the SBD becomes harmful! So I suggest we dont do work out on Phase I.

By the way, athletes are most prone to injury, when injured and cannot workout they gain weight faster than others kuz they are used to eating big quantities to make up for the energy consumed. I m only interested in this SBD because I heard that you can lose 7 pounds in 2 weeks. I only want to lose 5 so I assumed it can work for me before I go gradually to my normal training.



Edited 1/7/2004 10:14:39 PM ET by juliara2003


Edited 1/7/2004 10:18:06 PM ET by juliara2003

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Wed, 01-07-2004 - 10:09pm
Hi there. Athlete here. Weight lifter, middle distance runner, and hiker extrordinaire ;)

Athlete does not equal fit and trim off of the time. I run about 15-20 miles a week on normal and 20-25 when training for half marathons and 15Ks. However, if I am working my tail off and not eating the right kinds of foods, I find that I am 212 lbs. When I stepped on the scale and saw this, I thought... wait... I am an athlete and VERY active person. OK. So, I started SBD because it was good for me. I'm down almost 30 lbs and still going. My goal is 175. My distance times are faster now, and I find I am doing so much better with everything! My sister is a middle distance runner as well, and she had post pregnancy weight to take off. My father is a middle distance runner and an extreme hiker, and he took off about 20 lbs as well.

Just my thoughts.... and what are thoughts but stories in my head ;)

Ria

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Wed, 01-07-2004 - 10:19pm
Hello again,

I worked out extensively through phase 1 for three weeks. I was eating carbs through my beans and veggies. I did very well. I was also training for a half marathon which I ran on Thanksgiving Day after having a mild case of the flu. EW! lol.

I'll check the Runner's World I have at work. There was an article on runners and lower carb plans. have you been to the Healthy Eating expert? http://messageboards.ivillage.com/iv-fbask/message.asp?webtag=iv-fbask&msg=9069.2

Here is an answer I received when training using SBD. I don't know what type of an athlete you might be, but this might apply to different sports. BTW, what type of athlete are you? lol.

HTH

Ria

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Wed, 01-07-2004 - 10:21pm
Hello once again...


SBD is not a quick fix. It's a way of eating. If you want a quick fix, exercise a little harder.

Ria

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Wed, 01-07-2004 - 10:31pm
"We are meant to use our body for most things we do but now we use the car, elevator, escalator, sit on the chair, then sit on the couch for the rest of the evening munch potato chips and then go to sleep."

I suppose from that standpoint, we were meant to eat natural foods grown in our soil, not processed by modern machines. Technology is what it is just as necessity is the mother of invention. The fast-food/convenience-food/junk-food industry is a multi billion dollar business because we, as a nation, seem to enjoy the easiest and fastest indulgences. (We then look for the quick fixes to our problems! LOL) I don't think the overall health of America is the result of one culprit, but rather a combination of factors.

"the reason is that when your body needs energy it looks first for Glycogen (which can assist the burning of fat) but when it does not find it, your body has to choose between burning fat alone or burning muscle alone.

However, without Glycogen in the blood it is much easier to burn muscle than fat."

Hmmm, not exactly sure where you got this. I was taught the the cells first use glucose for energy. Without getting caught up in the Kreb's cycle, I'll move on. If we consume sugar or simple carbs in excess of our bodies' needs, it gets converted and primarily stored as fat. If our needs exceed our bodies' supply of available glucose, we dip into the bodies reserves and , viola produce glycogen which is then burned like glucose. Now muscle fibers, made up of amino acids, are broken down if our consumption of protein is inadequate, but I don't remember anything about the body choosing muscle catabolism before burning fat.

Not trying to offend here, just noticing a difference of opinion.

Good luck to all!

Debbie

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Wed, 01-07-2004 - 10:36pm
I had no problem with my eating habits so I dont need to re-learn how to eat but during my 4 month breakfrom running somehow the extra weight managed to crawl to my body. It took me 4 months to gain 5 pounds but I certainly wont wait 4 months to get rid of them. I am planning to stay on Phase I for another week. If I get results (even 2 pounds) then great if not I will go twice a day to the gym and get rid of the extra weight in 1-2 weeks.

I m long distance runner but since I live in Canada and we have -27 Celcius (-16 F)temperature , I m currently a treadmill rider. I do some weights and Yoga
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Wed, 01-07-2004 - 11:05pm
That is great. However, SBD is not a quick fix as I stated before, and it irriates me to see someone using SBD as such. If I am reading you right, you gained 5 lbs in 5 months because you quit running but still ate what was right for you. Now, you want to get the 5 lbs off because you don't want to wait. Well, it will work, and you'll be back to your running weight by the time Canada thaws out, and maybe, you'll pick up a new way to eat. Who knows?

I guess i am making too many inferences here so I will ask out right...

Why are starting SBD?

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