This is my first day, but I printed out the list of foods we can have and I don't see why hummus would be limited. Even if it is made with extra oil (which a lot aren't, even the storebought), there is no limit as to how much healthy oils you can have. And for beans and legumes its recommended to start with 1/2 c to 1/3 cup, but again its not actually limited-and it would take a ton of hummus to equal 1/2 cup of garbanzo beans. Does anyone have a recipe when they make their own?
Fat/oil servings are limited to a total of 2.5 servings per day. 1T oil = 1 serving for example. Here is a list of the things counted as fats/oils and their serving size:
FATS/OILS The following monounsaturated oils are recommended to be consumed daily: Oil, canola Oil, olive Other Oil Choices that may be chosen (Polyunsaturated or a blend of Monounsaturated): Corn Enova Flax Grapeseed Peanut Safflower Sesame Soybean Sunflower Other Fat Choices: Avocado - 1/3 whole = 1 TBS oil Guacamole - 1/2 cup = 1 TBS oil Margarine - Chose those that do not contain Trans Fatty Acids such as Fleishmann's Premium Olive Oil or Smart Balance Mayonnaise - Regular - 1 TBS Mayonnaise - Low Fat - 2 TBS (avoid varieties made with high fructose corn syrup) Olives (Green or Ripe) 15 = 1/2 TBS oil Salad Dressing - 2 TBS. Use those that contain 3 grams of sugar or less per 2 TBS. Best choices contain canola or olive oil. Low carb salad dressings may also be used if they meet these guidelines.
I'm sorry but what you listed is a sample menu plan. No where on the menu does it say you are required to follow those guidelines. In fact, when I signed up for South Beach Online it said I do not have to follow the meal plan at all, as long as I am adhering to the Phase 1 Food List. The Phase 1 Food List states that "Portions are not limited unless otherwise specified"...and olive oil is not one there is a limit next to. In fact, on the sheet you attached for the meal plan it states, "In Phase 1 you can of the diet, you can eat as many proteins and vegetables as you like as well as good fats like olive oil".
Well - that was (and is still) my understanding (doing this for 2+ years and losing 67lbs)
Maybe Cathy can clarify better. But the planning guide gives the appropriate servings for each catagory (things like protein and veggies say unlimited) and you can see in the far right column the serving size is listed. If it was unlimited like the proteins, why wouldn't it say "quanity not limited" like those columns do?
I'm happy with my understand of the guidelines as they worked well for me, but you are of course welcome to interpret it however you'd like!
Congrats on your weight loss! I don't plan on going hog wild with the olive oil or anything, but I was just under the impression most things on this plan you were not counting. I still get that impression when I read the Phase 1 list. My approach so far today has been to try and eat reasonable portion sizes of the items on the list. I have also been on the actual South Beach diet website messageboards as well.
Actually, I had tried South Beach a couple of years ago and didn't lose any weight, but I also didn't really give it a fair chance. I don't think I ever got past the first phase. Then my dad wanted to borrow the book b/c his doctor wants him to try South Beach and thats what got me thinking I should give it another try. But now I regret giving him my book! It would probably be cheaper to buy another one on amazon then join online I suppose.
You can usually find the original SB Book for $4.88 at WalMart. Its a great resource to have. But a lot of things have changed since it was published. Originally there were not this many "rules", counting and guidelines. As the online site developed, people wanted more concrete rules on things like serving sizes and how find appropriate products (things like the 3g fiber rule for bread for example is not in the book) Our cl-Cathy is a member of the paid site though, and she brings us all the updates and info from there, as well as asking the nutritionalists about certain products for us. So all our info is straight from their site.
While we don't count things the way a plan like Weight Watchers does - there are some things that are "counted". Dairy servings (2 per day on phase 1 and 2-3 on phase 2), Sweet Treats (100 calories per day), fats/oils (2.5 servings per day), then on phase 2 we count our grain and fruit servings (3 per day of each). In many ways the only things we don't count are protein and veggies (but even veggies we "count" because we want a minimum of 4.5 cups per day!)
Now do I think the rules are totally essential? Nah, not really. You'll find I'm generally the rebel around here who prefers a more common sense approach than the strict letter of the law from the nutritionalists! ;-) But, I do believe that there is some benefit to following plan closely at the beginning while you are learning. Then making your own choices as you progress in your understanding of your body and lifestyle and adjusting the guidelines accordingly.
There actually IS a limit for oils/fats. If you look at the Meal Planning Guide for Phase 1 here:
http://messageboards.ivillage.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=iv-fbsouthbeach&msg=22274.1&ctx=0
Fat/oil servings are limited to a total of 2.5 servings per day. 1T oil = 1 serving for example. Here is a list of the things counted as fats/oils and their serving size:
FATS/OILS
The following monounsaturated oils are recommended to be consumed daily:
Oil, canola
Oil, olive
Other Oil Choices that may be chosen (Polyunsaturated or a blend of Monounsaturated):
Corn
Enova
Flax
Grapeseed
Peanut
Safflower
Sesame
Soybean
Sunflower
Other Fat Choices:
Avocado - 1/3 whole = 1 TBS oil
Guacamole - 1/2 cup = 1 TBS oil
Margarine - Chose those that do not contain Trans Fatty Acids such as Fleishmann's Premium Olive Oil or Smart Balance
Mayonnaise - Regular - 1 TBS
Mayonnaise - Low Fat - 2 TBS (avoid varieties made with high fructose corn syrup)
Olives (Green or Ripe) 15 = 1/2 TBS oil
Salad Dressing - 2 TBS. Use those that contain 3 grams of sugar or less per 2 TBS. Best choices contain canola or olive oil. Low carb salad dressings may also be used if they meet these guidelines.
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Also, hummus contains tahini.
Well - that was (and is still) my understanding (doing this for 2+ years and losing 67lbs)
Maybe Cathy can clarify better. But the planning guide gives the appropriate servings for each catagory (things like protein and veggies say unlimited) and you can see in the far right column the serving size is listed. If it was unlimited like the proteins, why wouldn't it say "quanity not limited" like those columns do?
I'm happy with my understand of the guidelines as they worked well for me, but you are of course welcome to interpret it however you'd like!
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Congrats on your weight loss! I don't plan on going hog wild with the olive oil or anything, but I was just under the impression most things on this plan you were not counting. I still get that impression when I read the Phase 1 list. My approach so far today has been to try and eat reasonable portion sizes of the items on the list. I have also been on the actual South Beach diet website messageboards as well.
Actually, I had tried South Beach a couple of years ago and didn't lose any weight, but I also didn't really give it a fair chance. I don't think I ever got past the first phase. Then my dad wanted to borrow the book b/c his doctor wants him to try South Beach and thats what got me thinking I should give it another try. But now I regret giving him my book! It would probably be cheaper to buy another one on amazon then join online I suppose.
Hi,
I think that you might have misunderstood the information that you recieved from the official South Beach site.
You can usually find the original SB Book for $4.88 at WalMart. Its a great resource to have. But a lot of things have changed since it was published. Originally there were not this many "rules", counting and guidelines. As the online site developed, people wanted more concrete rules on things like serving sizes and how find appropriate products (things like the 3g fiber rule for bread for example is not in the book) Our cl-Cathy is a member of the paid site though, and she brings us all the updates and info from there, as well as asking the nutritionalists about certain products for us. So all our info is straight from their site.
While we don't count things the way a plan like Weight Watchers does - there are some things that are "counted". Dairy servings (2 per day on phase 1 and 2-3 on phase 2), Sweet Treats (100 calories per day), fats/oils (2.5 servings per day), then on phase 2 we count our grain and fruit servings (3 per day of each). In many ways the only things we don't count are protein and veggies (but even veggies we "count" because we want a minimum of 4.5 cups per day!)
Now do I think the rules are totally essential? Nah, not really. You'll find I'm generally the rebel around here who prefers a more common sense approach than the strict letter of the law from the nutritionalists! ;-) But, I do believe that there is some benefit to following plan closely at the beginning while you are learning. Then making your own choices as you progress in your understanding of your body and lifestyle and adjusting the guidelines accordingly.
belizesig1
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