Dependency Breeds Poverty

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Dependency Breeds Poverty
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Sun, 09-12-2010 - 8:25am

Education and a value system that supports a stable lifestyle prevent poverty. . .programs that foster dependency

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Sun, 09-12-2010 - 6:21pm

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Registered: 09-03-2010
Sun, 09-12-2010 - 6:32pm

>>> What I think we need is a national program to fund on-the-job training.

And even more cries for socialist hand-outs from the left...paid for by someone else, of course, probably the "evil rich." How about a little personal responsibility where people pay for their own training?...or work for employers for minimum wage until they learn a skill valuable to the employer?

>>> Too many employers whine about unqualified job applicants, but are unwilling spend a bit more on payroll to provide the specialized training for the skill set they expect/need.

I haven't heard about this cacophonous whine from employers. Links? But why should an employer pay someone to learn a skill when they can hire someone who is already skilled and ready to work day one? And in today's economy, finding skilled workers isn't a significant problem for employers.

>>> So many students graduate from college (either community or university) with a solid, diversified base of knowledge/skills, but the employers are too stingy to augment that with training in the specifics they require.

It isn't stingy at all. The employers "job" is for their business to provide a product or service, not to be a training facility for people who managed to graduate from school uneducated. Perhaps your ire would be best directed at the schools who turn out ill-prepared graduates...or the students themselves, who chose to party all night and get a BS Liberal Arts degree instead of a marketable skill.

>>> Maybe we should let employers start their own schools/universities and see how many students they can attract to their corporate-controlled world of non-compete agreements.

No need...skilled, responsible people are already lined up around the block hoping for jobs in that "corporate-controlled world of non-compete agreements."

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Registered: 01-25-2010
Sun, 09-12-2010 - 6:49pm
HI Tom another excellent post! I do have a question what is a stable Lifestyle?
What then would be an unstable lifestyle?
What occupations would be effected?
What happens to the employed persons in those occupations?
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Registered: 09-03-2010
Sun, 09-12-2010 - 7:22pm

>>> Creating education tailored for the individual to be successful is always a good thing. We are not a agrarian civilization any longer. The new times demand new skills. In today's world the velocity of change is faster than anytime in human history.

Sure...that's why we have colleges and trade schools. Get an education, learn a skill, THEN knock on the door of business.

>>> The government is there to meet the needs of the people.

The government is there to collect taxes, fix roads and defend the rights of the people.

>>> Re-education is necessary to get people back to profitable employment!

Well, tell them to get started! Imagine the boon to the economy when all those millions enroll in those colleges and trade schools.

>>> We have public schools here. We have the educational system it was not made to be left only to the rich.

Paid for by your taxes...and the taxes of the rich. But free public school education stops at grade 12. If that's as far as you want to go, then good luck to you. If you want more education, there are a host of facilities nearby that you can pay to attend.

>>> Since the "nanny" government has been at the forefront that the people demand it is fulfilling the role for which it was designed.

Wrong. The nanny-government keeps millions down and imposes debilitating burdens on other, productive members of society and damages the economy. It promotes mediocrity and penalized achievement. It is liberalism and liberalism stifles greatness.

>>> What objection is there to helping people improve their life?

None whatsoever. There are many opportunities that people can avail themselves of in order to improve their lives...but it's not up to me to pay for it.

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Registered: 01-25-2010
Sun, 09-12-2010 - 10:02pm

Oh it is the paying of a little tax that is the objection?
If you need emergency care how is that paid for?
taxes.
If you have children
their schooling is paid thru taxes
So Taxes pay for fire and police too.

but then : Sure...that's why we have colleges and trade schools. Get an education, learn a skill, THEN knock on the door of business. Those schools are paid for by taxes.
>>>>Paid for by your taxes...and the taxes of the rich. But free public school education stops at grade 12. If that's as far as you want to go, then good luck to you. If you want more education, there are a host of facilities nearby that you can pay to attend.<<<<<
Wrong: taxes pay for schooling passed the doctoral level. No one but the very wealthy could afford it otherwise.
>>>> The government is there to collect taxes, fix roads and defend the rights of the people.<<<<
Wrong It is the people who defend the rights
Government is to protect the people.
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
Notice it mentions welfare of the people. Not welfare of business and corporations so greed and selfishness are Not covered.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Constitution#Preamble:_Statement_of_purpose

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Registered: 10-25-2006
Sun, 09-12-2010 - 10:10pm

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That's it, huh? The last 70-80 years of governing that changed all that can simply be ignored. Americans didn't really want that; our parents and grandparents were just really confused, right? Let's revert to the good ol' days when the aristocrats' share of the nation's wealth was even greater than it is today, and we'll be sure to have an even Greater Depression!

That's what we'll get if the Republicans take control again.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTBYQlQ7yM

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Registered: 10-25-2006
Sun, 09-12-2010 - 10:12pm

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No. Socialists don't give money to businesses; they prefer that the businesses be state-owned.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTBYQlQ7yM

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Registered: 08-14-2010
Sun, 09-12-2010 - 10:18pm

"Let's revert to the good ol' days when the aristocrats' share of the nation's wealth was even greater than it is today, and we'll be sure to have an even Greater Depression!"



You can make a statement like that after Obama's 'greatest' victory is passing a law ordering everyone to buy health insurance.... Those oligarchs are already running your party for you.

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Registered: 08-14-2010
Sun, 09-12-2010 - 10:22pm

"No. Socialists don't give money to businesses"



I think you'd be suprised. That fed mandated ethanol still working out good for everyone?



The only jobs of politicians these days is to legaly obligate people to buy goods. It's been that way for a while now.

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Registered: 02-28-2010
Sun, 09-12-2010 - 11:20pm
giddy-up, giddy-up, giddy-up!!!

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