The Problem with Certainty

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The Problem with Certainty
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Fri, 09-17-2010 - 9:56am

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Fri, 09-17-2010 - 4:10pm

LOL!

Funny.

>>The concept that knowledge can be absolute and that some people possess this absolute knowledge also discourages creativity, for why search to something else when one already has absolute knowledge.<<

Actually, it opens up creativity. Why waste you time on what you already know when you can focus on other things? I am absolutely certain what a pile of dung looks and smells like. I don't need to taste, feel and ponder it with much depth to be any more certain. It is what it is. But please study it all you like if doing so makes you more certain.

Not everyone has that same burning need.

>>Luck is what you call it when preparation meets opportunity<<
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Sat, 09-18-2010 - 10:12am

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Sat, 09-18-2010 - 11:03am

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Sat, 09-18-2010 - 12:00pm
ITA. Also, it's a specious argument, and the exact type you would use when you don't have the facts on your side. Statist/Marxist/socialist etc... need someone to vilify in order to round up support for what they are really trying to do. Very similar to what the current administration is doing.

"Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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Sat, 09-18-2010 - 1:55pm

Sorry Tom. I just happen to disagree with you. And Tom, you are most certainly welcome to ignore me.

And Tom, as another example among so so many, I can tell you that I know my own child with absolute certainty. I think anyone who claims that nothing can be known without absolute certainty is wrong. So Tom, that means I believe you to be wrong.

>>In regard to the case you cited no matter how many examples of that substance a person has observed that person cannot know with absolute certainty that the next example would not smell.<<

And Tom, might I point out that is you who is misrepresenting what I stated. I never implied that any future pile of dung I might encounter is always going to smell. I just stated that I know a pile of dung when I see it. I know it with absolute certainty. Others might need to see it coming out of the creature who produced it to be so convinced. You may very well need to use all your senses and still not be convinced. But I'd not call that proving your point as much as I'd call it living in denial of that which is obvious.

There simply are things that can be known with absolute certainty. Tom, are there things that cannot be known with absolute certainty? Of course. But your blanket statement is simply false.






Edited 9/18/2010 2:03 pm ET by gripcon
>>Luck is what you call it when preparation meets opportunity<<
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Sat, 09-18-2010 - 3:01pm

But I'd not call that proving your point as much as I'd call it living in denial of that which is obvious.



I think you hit the nail on the head with that. It is a way of denying anything, no one is ever responsible, it's no one's fault. Blah, blah, blah...



And I am going to hold my breath if you don't respond. And it better be a nice response, too. And you must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest with... a herring!

"Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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Sat, 09-18-2010 - 5:30pm
Why go searching when the truth is already revealed? While you find the concept of "absolute knowledge" to be the cause of intolerance and war...and you are mistaken in this belief...it is also the basis of for much of civilization, innovation, freedom and generosity in it's many forms.
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Sat, 09-18-2010 - 5:41pm
Absolutely! And as sure as am sitting here.

>>Luck is what you call it when preparation meets opportunity<<
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Sun, 09-19-2010 - 12:42am

Tom,



Good luck man - as I stated to another poster on another thread - this is a vast right wing wasteland - there ain't nothin' here. What used to have 100-200 posts a day now has 25.

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Sun, 09-19-2010 - 5:52am
That's 'cause all the libs ran away. LOL! Like good little soldiers, at first they tried to defend their Obamessiah, but after so much failure, incompetence and Muslim-hugging, and then watching the Dems implode, all the little hope-and-changers figured it was safer to stay at home and put their heads back in the sand to recharge their Bush Derrangement Syndrome until after the November elections. ; )

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