OBAMACARE Disaster

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Examiner Editorial: Obamacare is even worse than critics thought

Examiner Editorial
September 22, 2010




















Much more has been revealed about Obamacare since President Obama, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi pushed the bill on Americans six months ago. (J. Scott Applewhite/AP file)


Six months ago, President Obama, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi rammed Obamacare down the throats of an unwilling American public. Half a year removed from the unprecedented legislative chicanery and backroom dealing that characterized the bill's passage, we know much more about the bill than we did then. A few of the revelations:



» Obamacare won't decrease health care costs for the government. According to Medicare's actuary, it will increase costs. The same is likely to happen for privately funded health care.



» As written, Obamacare covers elective abortions, contrary to Obama's promise that it wouldn't. This means that tax dollars will be used to pay for a procedure millions of Americans across the political spectrum view as immoral. Supposedly, the Department of Health and Human Services will bar abortion coverage with new regulations but these will likely be tied up for years in litigation, and in the end may not survive the court challenge.



» Obamacare won't allow employees or most small businesses to keep the coverage they have and like. By Obama's estimates, as many as 69 percent of employees, 80 percent of small businesses, and 64 percent of large businesses will be forced to change coverage, probably to more expensive plans.



» Obamacare will increase insurance premiums -- in some places, it already has. Insurers, suddenly forced to cover clients' children until age 26, have little choice but to raise premiums, and they attribute to Obamacare's mandates a 1 to 9 percent increase. Obama's only method of preventing massive rate increases so far has been to threaten insurers.



» Obamacare will force seasonal employers -- especially the ski and amusement park industries -- to pay huge fines, cut hours, or lay off employees.



» Obamacare forces states to guarantee not only payment but also treatment for indigent Medicaid patients. With many doctors now refusing to take Medicaid (because they lose money doing so), cash-strapped states could be sued and ordered to increase reimbursement rates beyond their means.



» Obamacare imposes a huge nonmedical tax compliance burden on small business. It will require them to mail IRS 1099 tax forms to every vendor from whom they make purchases of more than $600 in a year, with duplicate forms going to the Internal Revenue Service. Like so much else in the 2,500-page bill, our senators and representatives were apparently unaware of this when they passed the measure.



» Obamacare allows the IRS to confiscate part or all of your tax refund if you do not purchase a qualified insurance plan. The bill funds 16,000 new IRS agents to make sure Americans stay in line.



If you wonder why so many American voters are angry, and no longer give Obama the benefit of the doubt on a variety of issues, you need look no further than Obamacare, whose birthday gift to America might just be a GOP congressional majority.



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Fri, 09-24-2010 - 9:24am

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Fri, 09-24-2010 - 11:49am

This is interesting...



Reports national telephone poll, taken Friday and Saturday nights, shows that 41% of likely voters favor the health care plan. Fifty-four percent (54%) are opposed. These figures have barely budged in recent months.



...Fifty-seven percent (57%) believe that if the plan passes, the cost of health care will go up. Only 17% believe the plan will achieve the stated goal of reducing the cost of care.



While most voters oppose the legislation, 64% say it’s at least somewhat likely to pass. The disconnect between sustained public opposition to the health care plan and the belief it may pass may be one reason that just 21% of voters believe the federal government has the consent of the governed. This follows a similar disconnect on the bailouts, the government takeover of General Motors and other initiatives that were approved in the past year despite strong public opposition.



http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform

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Fri, 09-24-2010 - 3:43pm

From CBS News:



WASHINGTON, Dec. 21, 2009



Senate's Deal: Compromise or Corruption?

Reality Check: A Look at the Wheeling and Dealing Behind the New Health Care BillBy Wyatt Andrews



Play CBS Video Video How Did They Get 60 Votes?



Senate Democrats finally reached the 60 votes needed to pass along health care reform legislation, Wyatt Andrews reports in this "Reality Check" on questionable compromises behind the scenes.











    •  the Louisiana Purchase.

      When reports surfaced that Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La. (pictured here in November) had been swayed with a $100 million Medicaid deal just for her state, she bragged it was actually $300 million. The deal was so notorious, Republicans gave it a name: the Louisiana Purchase.

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    Fri, 09-24-2010 - 4:14pm

    All this was just a-okay with the democrats, that's what is disgusting. They needed votes, so they took millions of our tax dollars and used them to buy the votes.



    So I guess it would perfectly okay, if Republicans took over, to just take millions of dollars and buy the votes to cancel the health care bill, and social security while they are at it. At least that would knock trillions of dollars off the debt.

    "Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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    Fri, 09-24-2010 - 4:49pm


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    Fri, 09-24-2010 - 5:07pm

    Votes were bought - people did not vote for a bill they thought was good (or in many cases had even read). . .as a condition of their vote, they were promised that their constituents would be exempt from major portions of the bill and/or would receive financial benefits not received by others.

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    Fri, 09-24-2010 - 6:12pm

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    Registered: 03-02-2009
    Fri, 09-24-2010 - 9:29pm

    Thanks for that post, it clearly shows the under handed tactics the democrats had to use in order to jamb that bill down our throats.



    It should also be noted that when Massachusetts elected a republican that ran on a platform that included no to Obamacare, a clear message was sent to Washington that they didn't want it.



    Of course, Obama ignored that and said that the message was about jobs (another thing they suck at), and they would focus on jobs. And they promptly went back to a bill that was passed before the election, because they could not pass one now, and shoved that one through.



    Way to "get the message", Obama.

    "Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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    Sat, 09-25-2010 - 4:14am

    Not angry but extremely puzzled as

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    Registered: 03-02-2009
    Sat, 09-25-2010 - 10:18am

    Take a look at this...



    Sixty-one percent (61%) of Likely U.S. Voters now at least somewhat favor repeal of the new national health care law, including 50% who Strongly Favor it.

    "Resist, we much. We must, and we much. About that, be committed."

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