HLs don't always want the truth :-(

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HLs don't always want the truth :-(
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Wed, 09-26-2012 - 2:47pm
Well, I guess I survived the ML weekend from hell. I'm still married, and DH didn't file for divorce...yet. I don't know, maybe I'm being over dramatic about this. This is how it went down:

Saturday AM-

He initiates, I refuse because I have aunt flo visiting. He says, "you always tell me that as an excuse. We used to work around it". I say "I have cramps, and I am not in the mood". Things come to a head with him saying that I never make time for it.

I figured, ok now is the time to tell the truth. I tell him, "I am not attracted to you as I used to be. You let yourself go, you dont't take care to look good and you won't stop smoking like I asked you to over and over again. It is ruining your teeth. It affects your breath. I know I have my problems and stretch marks, but I've lost weight and I invited you to join me but you call it nagging. This is the result."

Well he didn't want to hear that, he wants me to agree to work on it. I told him the truth, he still wants to be kept in the ML "lala land" of empty promises. I was so tired of lying and having this hanging over my head all of the time. We are on a 2 month dry spell.

The truth hurts but I am tired of hurting him as well as myself with lies.

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Mon, 11-05-2012 - 1:04pm
I don't expect my wife to love me unconditionally. I know if I quit my job, stopped complimenting her, and otherwise stopped behaving in a way that meerts her needs, she would stop loving me. And I wouldn't blame her for stopping. What I find interesting and sad is that so many of us are stuck in relationships where both sides are trying and failing to meet the other person's need. It is sad to me that so often love is not enough.

When you see it coming, duck!

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Sat, 11-03-2012 - 1:21am

I find it interesting and sad that the number one thing most of us want in life is unconditional love, yet most of us also find the idea of *giving* unconditional love to be repellent.  If you want your spouse to love or accept you unconditionally, why are you unwilling give to them the same gift?  They're a person just like you are; they want just what you want.  There is no kinder gift to give another person.

Unconditional love doesn't mean "unconditional approval."  You can be kind, compassionate and affectionate towards another person while still letting them know when you need something or when something they've done has hurt you.  I think its tragic that the vast majority of human beings find it so hard to give what they so desperately want themselves.

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Sat, 11-03-2012 - 1:21am

I find it interesting and sad that the number one thing most of us want in life is unconditional love, yet most of us also find the idea of *giving* unconditional love to be repellent.  If you want your spouse to love or accept you unconditionally, why are you unwilling give to them the same gift?  They're a person just like you are; they want just what you want.  There is no kinder gift to give another person.

Unconditional love doesn't mean "unconditional approval."  You can be kind, compassionate and affectionate towards another person while still letting them know when you need something or when something they've done has hurt you.  I think its tragic that the vast majority of human beings find it so hard to give what they so desperately want themselves.

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Mon, 10-15-2012 - 1:05pm
Doesn't this go the other way as well, a partner expects "unconditional sex" regardless of whatever else is going on in the relationship, which would promote neglecting one's health among other things?
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Mon, 10-15-2012 - 12:18pm
I so agree. I don't believe in unconditional romantic love at all. In fact, the concept is downright dangerous! It keeps people in unhealthy situations and encourages laziness in relationships. After all, one shouldn't have to make any effort to deserve unconditional love.
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Sun, 10-14-2012 - 3:43pm

What's keeping you from getting a divorce? What you have is not a marriage.

Practical things, I guess.  Money, kids, the usual.  We very belatedly started marriage counseling a year or so ago, but (to my mind) have made little progress.  What she wants, it seems, is "unconditional love," i.e., to be the recipient of affection even as she denies me.  It really feels too late.

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What's keeping you from getting a divorce? What you have is not a marriage.  

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Fri, 10-12-2012 - 3:47pm
Again thanks for everyone's input in this thread, it is greatly appreciated!
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Fri, 10-12-2012 - 3:46pm
Update-

This week is our anniversary, and considering the circumstances I don't know WHAT IN THE HELL TO DO.
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Fri, 10-05-2012 - 5:13pm

I read this entire thread and some of it rang true.

I got to the "disgust" stage with my wife in the mid-1990s.  She'd had two kids, kept all the baby weight and a lot more from emotional eating.  At one point, we hadn't had sex is more than a year when she woke me in the middle of the night trying to initiate.  I tried to respond, but I couldn't even wrap my arms around her because "around" was just too far.  She couldn't move with me.  After a bit, I told her that I couldn't do this anymore until she had lost a lot of weight.

That was in January 1999.  We never had sex again.

In retrospect, perhaps I should have responded differently.  But disgust is a pretty strong emotion, and I was frankly resentful that she had let things slide so far.  She's now 260 pounds on a 5'7" frame.  The idea of sex with her is still repellent.  Over the years, I have had sex elsewhere, but those relationships have always been short and emotionally unsatisfying.  I also now realize that the end of sex definitely worsened our relationship.  We haven't hugged, kissed or said, "I love you," in years.  We don't fight, but we rarely speak beyond routine issues.

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