The gender gap in NH.

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The gender gap in NH.
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Sat, 09-29-2012 - 9:03am

Try again... the gender gap in NH. Men favour Romney by 7, women favour Obama by 17.

When we received the right to vote almost 100 years ago, men wondered what it would mean. They are about to find out.

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Registered: 06-22-2008
Tue, 10-02-2012 - 11:12am
nellewrites wrote:

Try again... the gender gap in NH. Men favour Romney by 7, women favour Obama by 17.

When we received the right to vote almost 100 years ago, men wondered what it would mean. They are about to find out.

What's that? Statism and a bankrupt country? Death panels? Begging the government to step in and provide for us?

Oh, but free condoms! That's worth it.


 

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Registered: 05-03-2011
Wed, 10-03-2012 - 5:28pm
Death panels? Good grief. Not that nonsense again.
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Registered: 06-22-2008
Wed, 10-03-2012 - 5:48pm

Call them what you want, but I don't think they're going to go away until they actually go away. Now the latest is that Obamacare will fine hospitals for some patients that return within 30 days. So, they want to encourage them to stay home and die? A rose by any other name...

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Registered: 05-13-2009
Wed, 10-03-2012 - 6:31pm
When I searched "Obamacare will fine hospitals for some patients that return within 30 days" only right wing websites appeared to cover this particular story. Echo chamber anyone?

The real story seems that ACA is attacking a long known problem of inconsistent care of medicare patients and excessive rates of readmission. Its intent is to improve quality while also trying to save taxpayers money. Consumer advocates say Medicare's nudge to hospitals is long overdue and not nearly stiff enough. I believe the law encourages quality care to prevent the need for readmission. Oh, the horror!
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Registered: 03-03-2009
Wed, 10-03-2012 - 6:40pm

The death panels rhetoric is meant to scare, rather than inform. Do you truly think that care isn't already meted out, with an eye to the bottom line, by insurance companies? It was before ACA and it will be again if ACA is ever overturned. So.....your "rose" isn't a governmental rose, it's also a private enterprise "rose".   Ooops, an inconvenient truth :smileysurprised:

Leonard Pitts wrote a column I found to be right on the money: http://www.abqjournal.com/main/2012/07/04/opinion/as-facts-die-theyre-reborn-as-delusional-dogma.html His column could have pertained to any number of issues, on both sides of the ideological fence. Wrote PItts, ".....the point is the construction and maintenance of an alternate narrative designed to enhance and exploit the receiver’s fears, his or her sense of prerogatives, entitlement, propriety and morality under siege from outside forces."

You entirely missed the point about hospitals readmitting patients: "The federal government wants hospitals to be more like Denver Health, which doesn't have to readmit many patients. Dr. Thomas MacKenzie, the chief of quality at Denver Health, says a big reason is because the hospital is able to help patients get follow-up care once they leave." http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2012/10/03/162168140/medicare-dings-hospitals-for-too-many-repeat-customers  Moreover, given the uptick in antibiotic resistent bugs and the high probability of medical error, I submit that getting out of a hospital ASAP is probably in a patient's best interest. 

Spare us the Randian cant of "statism". Hate to point out the obvious, but there's an inherent contradiction in assuming that women would back the concept when......wait for it...... Ayn Rand was a woman and railed at length against any bulwark protection from social Darwinism.

As for a bankrupt country, it would seem that the female gender doesn't hold a monopoly on spending without consideration for income. Or are you saying that George W. Bush is a dyke? Just wondering........

Jabberwocka

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Registered: 03-03-2009
Wed, 10-03-2012 - 6:54pm
There are sins of commission and sins of omission. In the quarters which are hostile to healthcare reform, the narrative focuses on a severely limited perspective. I guess the assumption is that people won't ask if there could possibly be a good reason to cut back on re-admissions. Apparently, they don't. Ask, that is.

Jabberwocka

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Registered: 04-09-2011
Wed, 10-03-2012 - 8:06pm

Dealth panels? You mean like how insurers make decisions every day about someone's care? Oh, but that's okay, free enterprise and all. Actually, it isn't okay either way, and that is where left differs from right.

And funny, crickets sang unhindered for eight years, not a peep from the right on deficits. Obama wins, has to clean up the total mess left by Republicans and the right whined up a storm.

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Registered: 04-09-2011
Wed, 10-03-2012 - 8:07pm

Single women are the single most powerful group in this country, but they traditionally don't vote in great numbers. That looks like a change this year, at least in this state.

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Registered: 04-09-2011
Wed, 10-03-2012 - 8:08pm

Ever look at what private insurers do?


This is classic GOP scare tactics, oldies but goodies.

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Registered: 06-22-2008
Wed, 10-03-2012 - 9:59pm
nellewrites wrote:

Ever look at what private insurers do?


This is classic GOP scare tactics, oldies but goodies.

Really doesn't matter if it is a scare tactic or not. Seems that the left just doesn't want to face the facts, so they name call.

It's basic supply and demand. What do you think will be the effect of cutting pay to doctors, and adding 30 million people to the healthcare system? In what bizarro world would that not lead to more and more people denied care?

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