The First Presidential Debate

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The First Presidential Debate
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Thu, 10-04-2012 - 8:30am

I wasn't going to watch the debate because my mind is already made up but I did anyways. I thought President Obama was horrible. He kept repeating strange statements and he didn't appear to know what he was talking about. It was like he had rehearsed for a different topic and was determined to stick to it no matter what. I'm so disappointed in the President. This is the guy who has been running our country for the last four years?

 

Brenda

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Registered: 06-25-2008
Fri, 10-05-2012 - 9:48am

I remember hearing Romney say he would work with both democrats and republicans to close loopholes and implement a better health care plan.  I personally don't think it was a big deal that he didn't specifiy which loopholes he was talking about. We all know they exist and that they do not benefit the middle class. That sounded pretty clear to me.

 

Brenda

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Registered: 04-09-2006
Fri, 10-05-2012 - 10:22am
Romney made a big point of saying he'd work with Democrats...I thought this was funny in a creepy way because it was the Republican members of congress who refused to be involved in anything bipartisan, who became the "party of no", despite repeated efforts (and many concessions) on the president's part to forge compromises. Of course the Democratic members of the congress will work with whomever becomes president...don't look for the Republican members to do the same if Obama is reelected. They said "no" and they meant it!
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Registered: 04-09-2006
Fri, 10-05-2012 - 10:42am
I was quite displeased with the evasiveness of both of the candidates. Obama never responded to Romney's contention that D-F mandates that five banks are "too big to fail". He didn't give a convincing explanation of the Medicare cut...after he was done, it still sounded like a cut.

But Romney lied or changed position on just about everything: suddenly we're looking at a moderate that I'd seriously consider as a candidate...not that far from Obama in lots of ways...if I didn't know his background, hadn't heard his "47%" comment (which he walked back from yesterday...I wonder what his deep pocketed donors think about that). Romney was absolutely unconvincing with his blithe assertion that somehow Romneycare works as a state mandate but not a federal one...if government can't be trusted with your money, it can't be trusted, no matter where it is...and because local problems call for local solutions (his argument), that means that a local solution can eliminate those with preexisting conditions, which is already the case. He didn't explain how his magic tax math works. He tried to invoke shades of the "death panels" without actually saying so.

So just how did Romney "win" the debate: by convincing people that he is just an inexperienced version of Obama, but one that can reach across the aisle (something Obama has NEVER tried :smileywink: ..."Vote for me because now I'm him, and he's been a terrible president...but I KNOW I'd do better because of my experience outsourcing America's jobs"? It just doesn't add up...not the tax argument, nor any of the rest.
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Registered: 06-22-2008
Fri, 10-05-2012 - 4:03pm

No, Romney just looked Presidential, more so than the actual president.

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Registered: 09-08-2008
Fri, 10-05-2012 - 4:03pm

Isn't mortgage interest deduction considered a loophole? By not being specific how can we know if he could really raise enough revenue by closing them to offset his tax cuts and defense spending?

So all he has to say is I am going to implement a better health care plan and that is good enough for you? Seriously?

 

 

 

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Registered: 04-09-2006
Fri, 10-05-2012 - 5:10pm
"looked" Presidential...okaaayyyyy...but I was actually more interested in how he sounded: like a liar.
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Registered: 01-14-2011
Fri, 10-05-2012 - 6:58pm

I see the desperation in the Obama supporters.  Romney lied Romney lied!!!!  Obama did so poorly in the debate (and of course HE didn't lie, cough cough) that his supporters have to whine and cry that Romney lied. The game is up.  Obama has been shown for exactly what he is, a clueless empty suit.  The polls are already showing the aftermath, and it's not looking good for Obama. 

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Registered: 04-09-2006
Fri, 10-05-2012 - 8:00pm
Desperation has nothing to do with the facts: they both lied/evaded...but Romney raised it to an art form. I didn't see the debate: I heard it on the radio. Without the visual cues I think it was easier to focus on the words...and both gentlemen used part of their time to mislead their constituents...whether they were out and out lies, evasions, misdirections, or whatever. Personally I'd much rather have a chief executive who is able to take ownership of his policies/aims to the point that he would never take the voters for such fools. But one of the candidates did lie quite a bit less than the other...I'm stunned that one is being given a "win" based on the fact that he played faster and looser with the facts than the other. Oh, and that he was high energy. (They drug kids in school for that nowadays.)
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Registered: 09-28-2012
Sat, 10-06-2012 - 1:01am

Obama is in the position of having to defend the indefensible. He has failed to get the economy going, help the private sector, or create jobs. His focus has been on growing government and spending our money.

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Registered: 05-12-2011
Sat, 10-06-2012 - 8:07am

I am guessing not too many people think or realize something. How long it took our country to get out of the Great Depression. And how long it took FDR to do it. Plus he had alot more cooperation from his Congress. ESp geting the New Deal through and many of the other things that occured to get things done. If FDR had to work with this current congress we would still be in the Great Depression. Plus he was in office for almost 16 years. Another thing that helped us ut of the Great Depression was WWII. And I am thinking sometimes the mentality here is that is what we need is another WW and that will cure us of the current depression. That may be why some people are trying so hard to stir the pot in Forgein Affairs. But lets face it the next WW will probably be our last one because someone will drop more that just 2 nuclear bombs.

But I am slowly considering voting for a 3rd party canidate(much to the suprise of my Green Party BIL) just because I am tired of the grid lock and just because we voted D/R it is still the same old nonsense. Just change the names. And maybe we need to think more about 3rd partiesjust to shake up the other 2 in to actually working together