Cancer increased w/circumcision rates

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Registered: 01-07-2008
Cancer increased w/circumcision rates
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Wed, 07-15-2009 - 6:34pm

Penile Cancer rates in the "US Population" have increased with increased circumcision rates.


 


 (direct link BMJ Journals )  http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/extract/312/7033/779/c


( easy to read copy) http://www.cirp.org/library/disease/cancer/fleiss/


 


“Morten Frisch and colleagues mistakenly repeat the myth that neonatal circumcision renders the subject immune to penile cancer….. 1 The reference given for this statement is not an epidemiological study but an opinion article by the American circumcisionist Abraham L. Wolbarst in 1932.2 Wolbarst invented this myth and was directly responsible for its proliferation; he based it on unverifiable anecdotes, ethnocentric stereotypes, a faulty understanding of human anatomy and physiology, a misunderstanding of the distinction between association and cause, and a unbridled missionary zeal. It was not based on valid scientific and epidemiological research.”


“Epidemiological studies disproved Wolbarst's myth long ago…. Their study also shows that the rate of penile cancer among men circumcised neonatally has risen in the United States relative to the rise in the rate of neonatal circumcision.”


 


Valid Scientific and Epidemiological studies show the exact opposite of what pro-circ groups want others to believe ->   that Penile cancer rates were increasing with increasing circumcision rates in the US.  

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iVillage Member
Registered: 07-02-2009
Thu, 07-16-2009 - 7:17pm

Of course we all know by now that circumcision does not prevent or reduce the risk of penile cancer.


But this is very interesting because it seems to imply a direct link between circumcision and penile cancer. (Possibly due to the absence of a protective foreskin?) In any event, penile cancer is very rare.


Christopher


"Education is the discovery of our own ignorance." Will Durant


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"Education is the discovery of our own ignorance.

iVillage Member
Registered: 01-07-2008
Fri, 07-17-2009 - 6:40pm

"But this is very interesting because it seems to imply a direct link between circumcision and penile cancer. (Possibly due to the absence of a protective foreskin?) "


iVillage Member
Registered: 07-17-2009
Sat, 07-18-2009 - 8:47am

......We can clearly see that circumcision failed,

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-28-2003
Sat, 07-18-2009 - 9:46am

Got any actual, factual data to back up THESE claims?

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-07-2008
Sat, 07-18-2009 - 10:36am
fruitsflakesnuts said:


"What we see is a large influx of third world uncircumcised males that account for the rise in penile cancer. Penile cancer accounts for 30%+ of male cancer in South and Central America. Where in Israel penile and cervical cancer is unheard of and the circumcison rate is basically 100%"!


Evidence for both claims please? The American Cancer Society has said:


"Most experts agree that circumcision should not be recommended as a way to prevent penile cancer."
iVillage Member
Registered: 01-07-2008
Sat, 07-18-2009 - 4:34pm

The ACS determines risk factors based on Valid Scientific and Epidemiological studies.


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iVillage Member
Registered: 01-07-2008
Sat, 07-18-2009 - 4:59pm

(in 1996) The ACS statements accurately pointed out the flaws of your opinion,

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Registered: 04-27-2009
Sun, 07-19-2009 - 12:23am

"...Penile cancer accounts for 30%+ of male cancer in South and Central America...."

LOL! much worse than lung cancer!

Is this part of what your upper class and supposedly circumcised Central American friends tell you at your country club and which you reported here earlier?

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-17-2009
Sun, 07-19-2009 - 2:01pm

Typo....actually 10%, which is still very high.


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Registered: 01-04-2006
Sun, 07-19-2009 - 4:15pm
The fact that it has about the same rate is America (circumcising) and Europe (non-circumcising) tells us that circ is clearly not much of a factor in the penile cancer rates. Something else must be causing that disparity.

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