21,000 circumcisions

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21,000 circumcisions
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Thu, 02-25-2010 - 1:11am

This was the estimated number of unnecessary circumcisions performed in the UK in 1998. It pales into insignificance when compared with the millions circumcised in the US; but for the UK it's a stunning, shocking statistic.


I have mentally struggled to understand the mindset of the few UK medical practioners who encourage circumcision. Under the NHS, no boys are circumcised at birth without the rarest of medical need. These older-age circumcisions are performed as a supposed medical imperative in boyhood and manhood.... and almost always because a foreskin is 'tight'.


I have two, perhaps three questions...


1. Do a majority of doctors who advocate circumcision in the US, believe a tight foreskin is an indication for circumcision? I'm not talking of a naturally adhered foreskin in infancy.


2. Without the enduring presence of circumcised American males... and the consequent, worldwide image of a 'normal' penis as a circumcised penis , would some British doctors even contemplate circumcision? I seriously doubt it.


3. I do have a No. 3...


To any pro-circ visitor/lurker: there's an almost submissive acceptance of the circumcised penis, in imagery. Why? Why does most pornography depict a penis with no foreskin? Does it please you or puzzle you?


Christopher


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Edited 2/25/2010 8:41 pm ET by cl-islaywhisky

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Thu, 02-25-2010 - 10:32am

I can only offer an answer for #1


1. Do a majority of doctors #or parents# who advocate circumcision in the US, believe

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Thu, 02-25-2010 - 9:23pm

I really appreciate your reply, Kristi... not only because it was from


CL - Circumcision Debate


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Tue, 03-02-2010 - 8:51pm
IMAO: this is just some emotional non issue.
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Wed, 03-03-2010 - 12:49am

xxxs, I have welcomed you already, in another thread, so won't do again!


You said "In my honest opinion." Good... and thank you for your honesty.


"This boiled down has two parts,aesthetics and aesthetics."


I see your point. What we're accustomed to plays a significant part, even aesthetically: the 'advantages' are null and void - yes. But is a parent's prerogative to choose to circumcise her/his son actually


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Thu, 03-04-2010 - 1:39pm

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Mon, 03-08-2010 - 12:34pm

I don't think it's necessarily unethical for a parent to ask for circumcision for their infant (given the climate of acceptance in the US), but I DO believe it is completely unethical for a doctor to agree to do the surgery, without a

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Mon, 03-08-2010 - 5:12pm

"I don't think it's necessarily unethical for a parent to ask for circumcision for their infant (given the climate of acceptance in the US)..."


I understand your reasoning, Anne, but if we consider the issue objectively does practising a cultural habit release it from ethical scrutiny? I note you use the word 'necessarily' and perhaps here you're thinking of those parents who recognise the benefits of a foreskin but go ahead and circumcise anyway. In cases like that I'm assuming you would consider their decision unethical. Have I matched your train of thought?


Christopher




"Education is the discovery of our own ignorance." Will Durant


"Almost any manmade phenomenon is explained by tradition, inertia - or both." Anon




Edited 3/9/2010 6:40 pm ET by cl-islaywhisky

CL - Circumcision Debate


"Education is the discovery of our own ignorance.

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Tue, 03-09-2010 - 11:56am

I don't think it's necessarily unethical for a parent to ask for circumcision for their infant (given the climate of acceptance in the US), but I DO believe it is completely unethical for a doctor to agree to do the surgery,


Yes, I suppose that one could argue that a parent might be excused of unethical behaviour on the basis of ignorance. In a culture that largely views infant circumcision as an O.K. thing to do, even beneficial, there are many parents who have no clue as to the value and function of a foreskin. I am still somewhat amazed at the lack of objective and rational thought though.