If Civil unions are EXACTLY the same, with regard to rights and responsibilities conferred by marriage, that's one thing. But this country has a bad reputation with the "seperate but equal' thing, and it doesn't work well. It may be seperate, but it surely isn't equal.
Marriage is a contract between two individuals, basically. What the churches do, is a different issue, and up to the individual church, of course. All the religious furor over marriage amuses me, because legal marriage for all has never forced a Catholic church to marry athiests, you know?
If civil unions are not exactly the same, it's a cop out, IMO.
Inter-racial marriage did not come about because most people wanted it, because most did not. It happened because the courts did the right thing. I suspect the same will eventually happen with equal marriage, but, not immediatly, and notunder this administration.
"Civil Unions, are they compromise or cop-out?" Give us your views.
I think they're a little of both. Politicians are always trying to please everybody, and this is a way for them to please at least some factions of both camps.
I think you would love it here, but your country needs you :)
One thing that changed for me since we had full rights here was that I very quickly (instantly lol) developed a much stronger sense of entitlement than I had before.
I have to agree with you that it's a form of segregation...that ole seperate but (not so) equal thing. And while speaking of 'better than nothing'...I don't think Rosa Parks thought sitting in the back of the bus, or drinking from a different fountain was right..even though it was 'better than nothing'. We don't vote on the marriage rights of others, we don't make it a constitutional amendment. Even if they've been divorced 8 times, or are murderers sitting on death row, we allow marriage. But when it comes to gays (like blacks, and inter racial couples before them)..we suddenly think that "majority rules;. Heck, if majority ruled, Bushie boy wouldn;t be president, now would he?
BTW..do you like ladyfingers with your tea? ;) (shhhhhhhh!)
Thanks Salty for your input and welcome to the board by the way. Don't think I ever offically did that. *smile
Anyway, from what I could see when I lived in VT, Civil Unions were identical to marriages when it cames to legal rights of insurance, taxes, hospital rights, wills etc.
Your right that it is a bit of a politcal cop-out but to me if it gets me my rights I am all for it. And as some one else said I look at it as a stepping stone.
There is an awesome bumpersticker I have seen that says " Just how does my marriage effect you?"
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If Civil unions are EXACTLY the same, with regard to rights and responsibilities conferred by marriage, that's one thing. But this country has a bad reputation with the "seperate but equal' thing, and it doesn't work well. It may be seperate, but it surely isn't equal.
Marriage is a contract between two individuals, basically. What the churches do, is a different issue, and up to the individual church, of course. All the religious furor over marriage amuses me, because legal marriage for all has never forced a Catholic church to marry athiests, you know?
If civil unions are not exactly the same, it's a cop out, IMO.
Inter-racial marriage did not come about because most people wanted it, because most did not. It happened because the courts did the right thing. I suspect the same will eventually happen with equal marriage, but, not immediatly, and notunder this administration.
"Civil Unions, are they compromise or cop-out?" Give us your views.
I think they're a little of both. Politicians are always trying to please everybody, and this is a way for them to please at least some factions of both camps.
<I would never have thought of it as a form of segregation but I guess you are right.
Here we have equal access to all public institutions, which includes marriage.
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I think you would love it here, but your country needs you :)
One thing that changed for me since we had full rights here was that I very quickly (instantly lol) developed a much stronger sense of entitlement than I had before.
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I have to agree with you that it's a form of segregation...that ole seperate but (not so) equal thing. And while speaking of 'better than nothing'...I don't think Rosa Parks thought sitting in the back of the bus, or drinking from a different fountain was right..even though it was 'better than nothing'.
We don't vote on the marriage rights of others, we don't make it a constitutional amendment. Even if they've been divorced 8 times, or are murderers sitting on death row, we allow marriage.
But when it comes to gays (like blacks, and inter racial couples before them)..we suddenly think that "majority rules;.
Heck, if majority ruled, Bushie boy wouldn;t be president, now would he?
BTW..do you like ladyfingers with your tea? ;) (shhhhhhhh!)
Thanks Salty for your input and welcome to the board by the way. Don't think I ever offically did that. *smile
Anyway, from what I could see when I lived in VT, Civil Unions were identical to marriages when it cames to legal rights of insurance, taxes, hospital rights, wills etc.
Thanks for stopping by Heather.
Your right that it is a bit of a politcal cop-out but to me if it gets me my rights I am all for it. And as some one else said I look at it as a stepping stone.
There is an awesome bumpersticker I have seen that says " Just how does my marriage effect you?"
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