When Girls Graduate as Guys

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When Girls Graduate as Guys
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Thu, 05-24-2007 - 1:46pm

What else can you do while gulping down 2 bottles of 4 fl oz of cough & cold medicine from Friday to Tuesday’s night? Who catches a cold in May? What else can I do since I’m sick of sleeping? I caught up on reading newspapers I’ve been neglecting. The Boston Globe magazine has a title “When Girls graduate as Guys” caught my attention.
Written by Adrian Brune, oh, this is from 4.8.2007 edition.

The article covers a dilemma women’s colleges are facing. The debate?

-Is it still a women’s college when some students who were females as freshmen are males by graduation day?
-If transmen are graduating from women’s colleges, is it fair/right/legal to forbid males born from attending women’s colleges?
-If women’s colleges are there to encourage/provide knowledge and skills on empowerment/to be the best you can be as a woman and some of their students don’t want to be women, does that defeats the purpose of being at a women’s college?

Comments by some of the transgenders are interesting too. I understand transgenders are people who feel they are not born with a body they feel uncomfortable with (to put it mildly). They were biological women but they wanted more to be men. One of the transmen said “I cried the day after I woke up and found my breasts gone.”…”with each stage, I feel like I’ve been losing my lesbian identity and that’s hard to give up.” What he said got me wondering. If transgenders have been struggling to realize their desires to be men, do they really have a lesbian identity? Is the lesbian identity automatically granted just because they were born as female, like their applications to women’s colleges goes through the pipelines because they’re of the female sex? Will we ship a toaster without questions when a transgender who was biological male complete the sex change and attracted to women? (wouldn’t offering a new car instead of a toaster be a better recruiting kit?)

FYI: Transgender can legally change the sex on their license in Massachusetts.

Unfortunately, no website was provided in the article so I can’t link it with my post for anyone interested in reading the article. The author is a freelance writer for The Hartford Courant and addy is magazine@globe.com if you want to request a copy.

One more question, since I am asking do you view me as having transphobia? The debate is on some of the schools websites and the article quoted a reply to a question "let the transphobia debate begin again." That reply got me wondering if I will be view that way too. *smile*

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Wed, 06-27-2007 - 12:44pm
*L* Bravo.
I wish J Michael and all the J Michaels of the world will read that one paragraph. I wonder if they will come back with something else. I don't know how you get the energy to keep replying to these individuals comments but I thank you for keep doing it. Save me my energy. ;-)
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Wed, 06-27-2007 - 12:47pm
I don't like beer. It reminds me of the first time I drank it and puked all over the floor from the hangover. So no more beer for me. I'll take a nice tall glass of raspberries ice tea right now. It in the 90s in Boston!
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Wed, 06-27-2007 - 12:50pm
I'm sure you felt uncomfortable with all those questions but no, I didn't feel uncomfortable at all. At probably have to do with the nice ways you put it. *smile* I am happy to get any questions as long as it keeps the conversation interesting. *grin*
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Wed, 06-27-2007 - 2:59pm

It's in the 90's here too, and it is just sweltering. A little southern sweet tea whould be grand right now. I don't even want to go to the pool.

Blue

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Wed, 06-27-2007 - 6:14pm

lmao... I handle two debate boards here, and have been through multiple 1,000 plus post threads where people compare same sex marriage to bestiality, polygamy, and paedophilia. In the midst of it all is kathleen, who is a dynamite parent, dealing with her daughter being very ill... there are times I'd just love to tell them how dare you say this stuff to her?


But I do this because issues don't resolve unless people think about it. If they forget, they don't think, they don't get new information, they don't grow. I spoke to a class at Plymouth State University two weeks ago, and those in the class (15 in all) were very much tuned in to the subject matter. Things are changing, and if I have to do this one person at a time, it's what I will do. There is no way I wish to see any kids go through the nonsense I did, or go through getting thrown out of their home for being gay, etc. It stops now.

Sometimes
Sometimes
I see much more than's good for me
The first thing that's on my mind
The last place I look each time


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Wed, 06-27-2007 - 6:16pm

All the more reason to have a beer. Ahhhhhh leisurely setting in a nice outdoor cafe, having a beer and chatting with friends, I'm in. Boston would work, so would P-town, where I've never been and need to go.

Sometimes
Sometimes
I see much more than's good for me
The first thing that's on my mind
The last place I look each time


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Mon, 07-02-2007 - 1:54pm

Hey, that's an idea.

Sitting in an Adirondack chair facing the beach while sipping drinks and eating lobster and clambake in P-town or sitting out in the patio and sipping drinks and eating tapas while people and street performers watching and having a nice conversation. *smile*

Ok, people, how many would like to join us? *L* *watching people looking everywhere to hide when they heard the question"

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Mon, 07-02-2007 - 2:05pm

Me, me, me!!! Sounds wonderfully relaxing and refreshing!


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Mon, 07-02-2007 - 6:19pm

Ohhhhhhh...

Spring SiggyBlinkie
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Mon, 07-02-2007 - 8:56pm

August 14th work out for your schedule?? :)

Blue

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