Do you think tusumi was an act of God ?

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Do you think tusumi was an act of God ?
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Mon, 01-10-2005 - 2:12am

Hey everyone, this is my first time posting to this board. Let me introduce myself. My name is Ila. I'm posting to this board today because I have a question that I would like to hear some of your thoughts about. It's about the earthqukes that happened over in Asia. Does anyone think this was an act of God?? the reason why I have asked this question is because a co-worker asked me about it one day. My co-worker said she has a friend that is very spirtual. And he told her during a conversation that he was suprised that religest people weren'tcoming forth and saying it was an act of God because people have been killing christians in indoneshia I looked it up on google and its true about the killings. Also, I think it's great the the U.S. is trying to help out but the one thing that bothers me is that it seems that the U.S. doesn't consern it's self with the problems that go on in that part of the world until something like this happens. Example I just finshed watching a news report about how childern over there are kiddnaped and sold as sex slaves and how after tusumi there are human trafficers who are trying to find orphaned childern to do this terriable act to. This has always went on over there, how com the U.S. has never had any news reposts asking people to help with donations and such to stop this from happening to these childern? just now? does anyone understand were I'm coming from?? non the less my thoughts, prayrs,and well wishes go out to all the victums.
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Fri, 02-04-2005 - 7:48pm

hi there wilila4,

i've actually met an archangel mid2004 here's that story http://www.anglesmessenger.com/aboutus.html

since that time i've been able to hear and converse with the angels.

devestated by this disaster i asked the angels how could this happen to God's children? I was in tears as I listened to their response. they told me that this "act of God" had to happen. you see mother earth is very sick at this time. people have been trashing her with garbage, chemicals etc. no more respect for nature. so earth was sick and well, had to just throw up! unfortunately this is just the beginning. so we need to change are ways get back to connecting with God, this does not mean going to church. it means going out in nature, meditations, respect for all... the angels ask that we also start using eco-safe products... they also ask that we daily imagine a pink, green and outer white layer on earth. that is what we call lightworking. you may want to pick up some books from author Doreen Virtue.

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Fri, 02-11-2005 - 11:23pm

Being a foreigner myself and coming form a democratic country, and now living in the biggest democracy int eh world, I must say tha tmost foreigner have nothing wrong against American as people but we certainly have something


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Sat, 02-12-2005 - 11:09am
We're not happy with how things are going either. But I don't believe things would have been much different if the other candidate had been elected. Just different geography maybe, as he talked about going after Korea. *sigh* For many of us, it was a case of choosing what we felt to be the lesser of two evils. Still, nice to know the rest of the world doesn't think completely ill of the American *people*. So thank you for posting that.
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Sat, 02-12-2005 - 11:10am
Unfortunately, it looks as though Bush is setting his eyes on Syria and Iran next. I have heard some reports about it. His obsession with making the Middle East a Democracy is very concerning to many of us. I believe many Americans voted Bush for a second term because of the constant talk about terrorists and homeland security and ramblings about "chatter" that is supposedly heard, that they re-elected him for fear of electing a president who might go a different route to bring peace between Middle-eastern countries and the US. The point is, though, most of what happened on September 11th was caused from lack of communication and mistakes on our governments' part to not act upon threats that were being transmitted months before it happened! The elections this year should have been an eye-opener for Americans. The 2 states that were affected the most by the attacks, New York and New Jersey, voted AGAINST Bush. I am originally from New Jersey and many of my friends and relatives were affected directly by these attacks. I have a friend who lived blocks away from the WTC and a first cousin who was in the second tower and luckily survived. He was also working there when the attack first attack occurred in 1993. They voted against Bush. I live in Florida now and deal with Governor Bush now. He is always sticking his nose where it doesn't belong either. Ironically Jeb NEVER lived in Florida until 6 months before election for Governor was to be held and we didn't have many strong candidates at the time to run a strong race against him. Funny thing is, if he wasn't doing all the campaigning for his brother down here, Kerry could have had a chance. I don't believe Gov. Bush should have had any involvement in the elections. I think it was extremely biased. President Bush also used the Hurricanes to his advantage. He used them as an excuse to visit Florida and make himself sound so trustworthy. But, through it all, he spent maybe 10 minutes of his speeches on how he would help our state (which never happened anyway) and an hour talking about the elections!
Politicians are some of the most untrusting people in our country. It is hard for me to vote anymore. It seems we are always voting in the lesser of 2 evils. It honestly has gotten so bad that even Republicans who disagree with the President are being cast out. If you are not Pro-life, God-fearing, Muslim-fearing or right wing, you are not conservative. If you are liberal, you are lower than low and always compared to Michael Moore. Who, has some things to say that are logical to me and some I don't agree with also. Liberal has turned into a dirty word. Republicans who lash out against this cabinet, get slowly pushed out of Politics for voicing their opinions.
I know this is not a political board, but it trully scares me. Nobody has a voice anymore, all our freedoms are being taken away, although we are supposedly promoting freedom, and we are being brainwashed into fearing other countries and not trusting anyone of a different culture than us.
What this brings is religion where Jesus is being used to fight a war against Allah and if you don't believe this, you are not patriotic. If you are different than the stereo-typical american, you are a threat to some war that most have never agreed upon and if you say anything that is taken as against this "war", then you are against our troops, the "American" way and Democracy. When 9/11 took place..no matter how horrible it was...one thing good came out of it...a bunch of different people with different beliefs and different religions coming together as one to say nobody will take away this wonderful country we live in. What happened? How can something so touching turn into something so shameful? It really saddens me. Although I have seen a few that have been starting to realize something is wrong, it seems more are having less tolerance of freedom of religion in America. I hope more people will start opening their eyes.
Sorry to rant. This is one of my most sensitive subjects and I feel we all have to say something or much worse is going to come of it!
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Sat, 02-12-2005 - 1:29pm

Virgogirl, your message got me thinking about the path our country's heading down in the eyes of the rest of the world with George Bush at the lead. A while ago, Tony Blair, England's prime minister, was talking about the Kyoto treaty that the rest of the world is participating in (and the US has chosen not to, out of fear it will hurt the country's businesses). In response to the lack of the United States' participation in the treaty, Blair said (I'm just paraphrasing here):

If the United States wants the rest of the world to participate in and support issues that it considers important, then it should be prepared to also participate in and support issues the rest of the world considers important.

I thought that was rather prolific and true. And that came out the mouth of someone who's been a fairly good friend and supporter of Bush's.

I guess the only thing we can all do at this point is send positive love, thoughts, prayers, etc towards Mr. Bush and the rest of the USA's leaders that they'll do the right thing in the end. That, or that who comes in after them will be able to clean up any messes :-P.

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Sat, 02-12-2005 - 3:07pm
I agree too. What has always made us a great country was our love of peace and our ability to join together countries to progress to harmony in this world...regardless of differences. If we do what others have and ignore the UN and other countries that don't fit into our agenda, than we are setting ourselves up to become the enemy of these countries instead of peacekeepers. You are definitely right to keep praying and showing our love and gratitude to countries that are in crisis, our troops and even for Bush and other Leaders we may not think fondly of.
One of our best laws in the USA is the fact that a President can only be elected for 2 terms. I hope everyone who is not satisfied by the way our country is being run will do their part in the upcoming 4 years to get us where a great country should be. My personal choice is a bipartisan government where there is an equal amount of Republicans and Democrats choosing our laws and bills. This way, if one or another party does not agree, it can't be passed. I think that this is the reason the '90's were for the most part peaceful and prosperous times. If one party overcomes another, too many seem unhappy. But, that is only my opinion.
Let's all just keep praying and hope for the best!
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Sat, 02-12-2005 - 5:15pm
Amen!
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Sat, 02-12-2005 - 9:02pm
Thank you for the post...ITA!

 

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Sat, 02-12-2005 - 11:44pm

Unfortunately it seems elections in everycountry is always abou choosing for the less of two evils, or as my former boss said choosing between Plague and Cholera which means exactly the same.


I know a couple of indian citizen who had to go to US for a while and they all said that they felt like outcast, confined to the indian community only unable to mix with other because they were assimilated to terrorsit or because they were just plain different from the rest.


The thing that shocked me the most was when my bf's cousin called my on Diwali ( the hindu new year) she lives in US and there she couldn't celebrate properly because most of the stuff are forbiden. See Diwali is about doing fire crakers and lighting candles or oil lamps called Diyas all around the house and inside. That fire crakers are fobiden on that day in US I can understand for the sake of the neighbourhood, but she told me she was forbident to light a few diyas outside her house! the reason invoqued was safety, but she noticed that on Halloween and Christmas those same cnadles and such are allowed outside, so it seems to me like it more like forbidding people to practice their religion freely.
Those lights inthe house is in fact a way of attracting the goddess of prosperity into your home (home that has been cleaned completely the day before as well)


From the outside it appear that the US post 9/11 is now fearing other religion and is a land of peace only for Christians and pacific religions like Buddhism. Please tel me if I'm wrong but that's how I feel from my little corner of the world, and it sadden me because 10 years ago US was a peaceful country were every ethnicities and religion had a right to expression.


I keep praying and hoping the american people will open their eyes and live again in a US were there is freedome of speech and respect for every human beings no matter the religion they practice. As for the fight of Jesus against Allah there is nothing that makes me the most angry, especially since Allah is the word the muslims gave to God who by the way is exaclty the same as the christian Lord and in that case it makes jesus the son of Allah as well, how can people believe such a thing? A son fighting his father in a war of Good against Evil? Does it mean the son is Good but the father is Evil? I'm kind of confused there and tend to think that humans really need to use religion as an excuse to kill their neighbour.


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Sun, 02-13-2005 - 11:20am
Unfortunately, most of the problems arising at this point in time are the result of a few ignorant people who don't think before they say things. I don't know about the fireworks thing because in Florida and my county I live, they are still legal although many states have banned them over, again, a few ignorant people.
I was district trainer and head regional manager for a Pharmacy chain for 7 years and trained new technicians, pharmacists and interns. Many were from the middle east. I trained Israeli's, Muslims and Hindu people and learned quite a bit of their culture from them and they learned quite a bit of our culture from me. I have seen and heard about the good and the bad. I changed my life from things I learned and disliked much I heard also. I believe that was the most rewarding part of an extremely stressful job. I have developed great relationships that I still have to this day.
I hope we get back to what times were like 10 years ago. I make sure never to judge others and hopefully others do the same. I have noticed quite a spiritual upheaval in America. Some good and some bad. Like in every other facet of life, hopefully the good will prevail and snuff out the evil once again.
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