Calling Cthulu............

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Calling Cthulu............
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Thu, 03-27-2003 - 4:49pm
I understand a "National Witch Burning Day" is also in the works followed by a "Stone The Heretic" contest.Sacrificial goats are also avilable for those who qualify.


House Approves National Day of Prayer

By Associated Press

March 27, 2003, 2:23 PM EST

WASHINGTON -- The House passed a resolution Thursday calling for a national day of humility, prayer and fasting in a time of war and terrorism.

The resolution, passed 346-49, says Americans should use the day of prayer "to seek guidance from God to achieve a greater understanding of our own failings and to learn how we can do better in our everyday activities, and to gain resolve in meeting the challenges that confront our nation."

Under the resolution, President Bush would issue a proclamation designating a specific day as a day of "humility, prayer and fasting."

White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan said officials there had not looked at the resolution but "the president believes that faith and prayer are important and frequently references the importance of praying for American troops and for freedom around the world."

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http://www.newsday.com/news/politics/wire/sns-ap-war-national-fasting,0,3211719.story?coll=sns%2Dap%2Dpolitics%2Dheadlines







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Fri, 03-28-2003 - 11:26am
Perhaps you are right, but I still see it as a step in a direction that we really don't want to go in. I feel strongly about the government even suggesting ANY religious/spiritual agenda...doesn't even matter if it's mine! LOL! (Although, in this case, it isn't.) While it may not actually violate a 'tenet', it still comes too close for my comfort. And again, I really do worry that it will just be one more thing to drive one more wedge into the American population. I get called anti-American for tying a white ribbon on my purse...

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Fri, 03-28-2003 - 11:54am
I confess being ignorant of H. Lovecraft's stories. Are they some mythical fantasy world?
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Fri, 03-28-2003 - 11:57am
The one book I read was more along the lines of horror/sci-fi....but that was just my impression. Not really my type of books.

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Fri, 03-28-2003 - 1:35pm
I don't see how the government suggesting that people pray to whatever G-d they choose to worship for a speedy, successful resolution to this war is any more devisive than the antiwar protestors who prevented my son from making an important doctors appointment by tying up traffic by staging a die-in. How is a large group of people voluntarily gathered in prayer any different than a large group of people gathered wearing white ribbons? Both are perfectly legal, constitutionally protected activities. I guess it is all a matter of perspective. I suspect that some people on both sides of the fence are just a little too eager to be offended.
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Fri, 03-28-2003 - 2:27pm
My reaction is due in great part to the fact that this isn't the first time this administration has crafted some legislation or resolution that involves the church or, more specifically, their own moral beliefs.

JMHO, but there's a difference between people exercising their 1st Amendment rights (no matter which side of the fence they are on), and having the government set a date for 'prayer & fasting'. As for the 'die ins', so far they have been peaceful forms of protest. A car accident or some such thing could easily tie up traffic just as effectively.


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Fri, 03-28-2003 - 2:41pm
I agree. If the resolution is government sanctioned, that is where the problem is. There is an overt pressure implied in a resolution. If you don't participate you are "un-American" or many other words used over history. Anyone who wants to exercise their 1st amendment rights can and should, according to their own conscience. The government sanctioning is what gives this an ominous feeling.
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Fri, 03-28-2003 - 3:09pm


well, the person who used to hang out on f.t. and who went by the name "chthlu" was a wiccan extremist, so I figure her name must have some wiccan connection.

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Fri, 03-28-2003 - 10:29pm
Am I correct in guessing that the resolution does not include any provision to give millions of federal workers the day off to fast and pray? I think that is a pretty gook indicater of how much resolve there is in the resolution.

Also, maybe I'm not paying attention, but I'm just not feeling the "overt pressure" to participate. There was also a resolution passed that made April autism awareness month. Do you feel that you are under "overt pressure" to wear the puzzle ribbon? (For some reason I am having flashbacks of the Seinfeld episode where Kramer got beat up for not wearing the AIDS ribbon)


Edited 3/28/2003 11:34:09 PM ET by lorien2000

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Sat, 03-29-2003 - 7:18am
I think you are missing or confusing the point. We are now in a war , the overt pressure has existed to be completely supportive since 9/11. People have been called "unpatriotic" for little or no reason. American citizens born in this county are being questioned if they are from the middle east or if they are Muslim. The "Patriate Act" waives 1st amendment rights in the name of security. The US by calling prisoner "military combatant" and keeping them off of US soil uses practices that are against the Geneva Conventions treatment of war prisoners. Ect etc. The entire atmosphere since 9/11 is what caused the overt pressure not just one resolution. One must look entire picture or it like the blind men and the elephant story.
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Sat, 03-29-2003 - 10:41am
ITA, well stated.