Bush puts God on his side.

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Sun, 04-06-2003 - 11:08am
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2921345.stm


Before September 11, President George W Bush kept his evangelical Christian beliefs largely to himself.

He had turned to God at the age of 40 as a way of kicking alcoholism, and his faith had kept him on the straight and narrow ever since, giving him the drive to reach the White House.



But all that changed on the day of the attacks on the Pentagon and World Trade Center.

Those close to Mr Bush say that day he discovered his life's mission.

He became convinced that God was calling him to engage the forces of evil in battle, and this one time baseball-team owner from Texas did not shrink from the task.

'Angels' country'

"We are in a conflict between good and evil. And America will call evil by its name," Mr Bush told West Point graduates in a speech last year.

In this battle, he placed his country firmly on the side of the angels.

"There is wonder-working power in the goodness and idealism of the American people," he said in this year's State of the Union address.

This concept of placing America in God's camp sticks in the throat of a lot of American clergy.

"It is by no means certain that we are as pure as the driven snow or that our international policy is so pure," says Fritz Ritsch, Presbyterian minister in Bethesda, Maryland.

The Reverend Ritsch says it also makes their job as clerics harder by giving Christians in America an easy way out.

They do not need to examine their souls because their president has told them they are on the side of good.

"There is an opportunity here for spiritual enrichment in this country that is just getting missed."

Battle with anti-Christ

In fact, nearly all the mainland churches in America oppose this war, including Mr Bush's own church, the United Methodists.


Mr Bush is certainly not the first president to invoke God in time of war, but his approach is markedly different from his predecessors.

During America's Civil War, Abraham Lincoln did not claim that God was on his side.

In fact, in his famous second inaugural address, he said the war was a curse on both armies: "He gives to both North and South this terrible war as the woe due to those by whom the offence came."

Yet Mr Bush's rhetoric does have a huge audience.

One in three American Christians call themselves evangelicals and many evangelicals believe the second coming of Christ will occur in the Middle East after a titanic battle with the anti-Christ.

Does the president believe he is playing a part in the final events of Armageddon?

If true, it is an alarming thought.

But he would not be alone, as 59% of all Americans believe that what is written in the Bible's Book of Revelations will come to pass.

Winning formula

Tim LeHaye is an evangelical minister who has written 10 best-selling novels based on the Book of Revelations.

With exquisite timing, his 11th, called Armageddon, will be published next week.

By combining the apocalypse with a Tom Clancy style, Mr LeHaye has found a winning formula.

After the attacks on the World Trade Center, the minister became America's best-selling novelist in 2001, beating even John Grisham.

In his latest novel we see the anti-Christ, armed with nuclear weapons, setting up camp at New Babylon in Iraq.

The millions of Americans who believe in the biblical prophecies see this war in a very particular way and among them, George Bush's stark talk of good versus evil plays very well.

If America prevails, millions will say it was divinely ordained.

But many others will suspect that it had more to do with the power of American weaponry than the active intervention of the Almighty.


 


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Sun, 04-06-2003 - 2:06pm
Reading this just leaves me with a feeling of foreboding. I've commented to many since 9/11 how he is constantly invoking his God and stating how his God backs us and that makes US right. Even if this isn't Armaggedon (which I don't believe in anyway), I fear he will make it one in some misguided attempt to be a 'spiritual leader'...sigh...

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Sun, 04-06-2003 - 4:24pm
ITA. When your policital leaders attempt to become your spiritual leaders, I think you're headed for trouble!

While reading this article I remembered a saying I once read...

"Going to church doesn't make you a Christian anymore than standing in a garage makes you a car."

LOL!

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Sun, 04-06-2003 - 4:46pm
ROFL! That's a great quote!

However, kidding aside, the fact that 59% of Americans believe in Armageddon really frightens me. The Armageddon Story is in the Bible; that's what it is -- just a story,imo. But what frightens me are those who want to believe it will happen...how far will they go to make it a reality?

I think it's ironic we live in fear of extremists from other countries/other religions. The fact is, extreme ANYTHING is dangerous.

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Sun, 04-06-2003 - 9:07pm
Very true.

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Mon, 04-07-2003 - 9:09am
I agree! Some sects of Christianity 'scare' me as much as terrorists do.....

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Mon, 04-07-2003 - 9:21am
I found this article link posted on the Bush Watch web site:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/nm/20030404/pl_nm/iraq_bush_europe_dc

Sorry, I would have cut and pasted the article, but it had so much other garbage embedded into it, it would have been tedious, at best, to do!



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Mon, 04-07-2003 - 9:35am
"Evangelical"? Just because our president is spiritual doesn't make him "evangelical". He has every right as we all do to express his beliefs in a power higher than himself. His morality is obvious in his stance to fight evil. If he were a muslim or buddist I'll

bet no one would have a problem because the left-wing bashing of anything christian is obviious. As a voter, the candidate that express his/her morality get MY vote.

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Mon, 04-07-2003 - 9:38am
So tell me, how many terrorist acts have Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Jimmy Swaggart, and the like performed lately? How many of his followers have killed others in the process of forcing people to follow Chrisianity?
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Mon, 04-07-2003 - 10:32am
Not sure you can say the left bashes christians after all the clintons and carter amongst others were, are churchgoes. Hilary attends the methodist church.

Jimmy Carter went to baptist church frequently during his term and plays a major role in a christian based organization (habitat for humaity).

http://www.jimmycarterlibrary.org/documents/jec/church.phtml

"Forty-seven percent of Republicans attend church regularly, compared to 38 percent of Democrats and 29 percent of independents. And there's a big difference between Catholic women (49 percent go to church weekly) and Catholic men (26 percent attend every week.)"

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/church_poll020301.html

I see nothing wrong with people expressing their faith, but when they start using it to justify or support the breaking down of our constitution and major conflicts then it becomes dangerous. whether it is justified or not, others around the world see his faith and use of the word crusade as foreboding and frightening prelude to what this nations mission is becoming and it has nothing to do with justice and liberty for all.




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Mon, 04-07-2003 - 10:50am
So you are denying we are fighting an evil, brutal regime? Bush calls it what it is.

And what do the Clintons and Carter have to do with anything? Perhaps the reason the Clintons never expressed their faith is because they are nothing but label christians, NOT true followers (obviously) like Bush is. As for Carter, maybe expressing his faith would have made him a better president. Who the heck knows....All I know is just because Bush expresses his belief in God and the Clintons and Carter do not, DOESN'T MATTER. They are different people. What a useless argument you have there.

I think is is admirable that Bush admits he uses his faith to help guide him, thus admitting he is not the "cowboy" the left-wing likes to portray him as.

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