Steve Irwin taking baby in crocodile pit

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Steve Irwin taking baby in crocodile pit
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Tue, 01-06-2004 - 8:26pm
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Wed, 01-07-2004 - 8:03pm
Wrong. Your "logic" is interesting, though. Come back and say hello AFTER you sit in a croc pit for a while.

Oh. Just to clear up what is obvious confusion on your part, neither me nor anyone else takes orders from YOU on where to go on the Internet, what to discuss, or what opinion to voice. When you come to a message board you "risk" reading opinions and FACTS which don;t match your thinking. That's the way this message board thing works. So instead of bursting in here with guns blazing and barking orders for people to shutup you are free to move along. Sounds like YOU need to "calm down".


Edited 1/7/2004 8:17:14 PM ET by jt731

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Wed, 01-07-2004 - 8:11pm
Would you want your child in that position. Iknow I would not
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Wed, 01-07-2004 - 8:23pm
Wrong? Is that's all you've got to say? Perhaps you could eloberate upon what you saw as wrong - where it was wrong, how it was wrong and why it was wrong.

Is it wrong to state that Steve Irwin has been around crocs all his life? NO!

Is it wrong to state that he did exactly the same thing with his daughter Bindy? NO!

Is it wrong to state that this was how he was raised, and how his parents introduced him to crocs? NO!

Is it wrong to state that crocs are his life and he knows what he's doing? NO!

Is it wrong to state that a child has a far greater chance of being killed or maimed in a car accident, than anything going wrong in that enclosure? NO!

Is it wrong to state that other people whose lives revolve around large (and potentially dangerous) animals introduce their children to those animals at very young ages? NO!

Is it wrong to state that there are children in far greater danger of neglect and abuse then Steve Irwin's child ever was? NO!


And what would my sitting in a croc pit prove? How many croc pits have you sat in? In fact, how many crocs have you even seen in the flesh and not on TV? And, in the context of the Steve Irwin/baby bob incident, I find the use of the word 'pit' to be deliberately misleading. The very word 'pit' has an added implied danger in and of itself. There was no pit!! It was a ground level enclosure. And, apart form Steve Irwin and baby Bob there were 6 other croc handlers in the enclosure. It was a controlled environment with a croc that has been in captivity for years - not some croc in the wild.


Edited 1/8/2004 1:14:09 AM ET by cheshierfire

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Wed, 01-07-2004 - 8:34pm
Thanks for adding a whole other paragraph after I already responded to you. But, no problems.

EXCUSE ME, but where did I bark any orders????? And just to clear up what is not only obvious confusion on your part but also an obvious inability to comprehend the English language, I didn't give anyone any orders, nor tell anyone where to go on the Internet, nor what to discuss, or what opinion to voice. I OFFERED MY OPINOIN ON THE TOPIC AND MY OPINION ON THE ATTENTION THE TOPIC HAS GENERATED. Do you understand the difference? I guess not.

And, seeing as this is a public message board open to all opinions, if I want to 'burst' in here or twaddle in with a 'guns blazing' opinion, then I'll do just that! And if you don't like it then you're equally free to move along. :-)

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Wed, 01-07-2004 - 9:01pm
Guess I was too quick for ya!

Why would I "move along"? You reallly ARE confused. Now pay attention. I am th eone who started the discussion thread. You are the one who keeps getting all rile dup about how ridiculous it it, yet you keep coming back - 3 times so far - writing MANUSCRIPTS!

Anyway, I told you not to come back until you spent time in the pit. Get going!

::what a croc::

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Wed, 01-07-2004 - 9:17pm
Anyway, I'm glad child welfare was called in:

http://heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,8320682%5E661,00.html

STEVE IRWIN CROCODILE SHOCK

05jan04

UNTIL now, few people would have mentioned wildlife showman Steve Irwin and pop superstar Michael Jackson in the same breath.

However, Irwin's silly and dangerous stunt of holding his infant son near the mouth of a crocodile has been likened to the time Jackson dangled his baby over a hotel balcony in Germany.

The furore over Irwin's action on Friday at his Queensland zoo shows how quickly a national icon can go from hero to zero in the public mind.

The Crocodile Hunter's thoughtless act betrayed a serious lack of judgment and set a bad example for millions of young people who look up to the man as a role model.

Stung by the public outrage and an investigation by child welfare authorities, Irwin seemed genuinely shocked and hurt by the response.

We hope this whole affair will be a solid lesson for a person who otherwise commands devotion and respect from a legion of fans around the world.

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Wed, 01-07-2004 - 10:01pm
Hahahahahahahaha............you're so funny!!! Get over youself!

What's up? Can't you read more than 2 lines at time? :-)

Oh, BWT, crocs don't live in pits! Now, how many crocs is it you've seen in the flesh?

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Wed, 01-07-2004 - 10:26pm
>>Anyway, I'm glad child welfare was called in:>>

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...and this is even funnier, I just about fell off my chair laughing when I first heard it. The 'child welfare agency' aka the Queensland Department of Families, whose minister is Judy Spence (it was she who issued the statement that they would investigate) have been under the investigation of the Crime and Misconduct Commission who have just handed down a scathing indictment of incompetence and maladministration. Through their (the depts) neglicence forster children were sexually abused by foster carers over decades. Despite complaints to the dept by the victims, the dept chose to dismiss or ignore the complaints - thereby being guilty of child neglect of the most vulnerable children in the worst possible way. Saying they'll investigate Irwin is sheer hypocrisy, political grandstanding.....and akin to sending dracula to investigate the blood bank. LOLL!!

http://www.thecouriermail.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,8338867%255E13360,00.html

AND, thanks to the magic of TV cameras the whole episode appeared far more dangerous than it ever was.

http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,8339948%255E13780,00.html

Oh, and BTW, I'm sure this'll just make your day.......did you know Irwin has been nominated (months ago) for Australian of the Year? And the Premier of Queensland (the Australian state in which Irwin lives and has his zoo) stands by that nomination still. Of course, thanks to ill informed public opinion, there's no way now he'll win the title - but his nomination still stands.

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Wed, 01-07-2004 - 10:52pm
Glad you're feeling better! :-)


Put another shrimp on the barbie, mate, and keep dazzling us with your repertoire.

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Wed, 01-07-2004 - 11:17pm
i'm thinking the child is more likely to die from someone forgetting to crack the car window in the summer than a crazed crocodile eating him.

granted, i'm not sure i would have done what irwin did, but then, i've only been in close range of a crocodile once and it did try to eat me. :)

the only reason he's getting flack for this is because a crocodile is an obvious danger and he's a celebrity.... i certainly don't seen anyone getting this upset about kids in my neighborhood riding their bikes with out helmets... households chemicals being stored under the sink (without cabinet locks)... etc.