This is why we went to war

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This is why we went to war
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Fri, 02-06-2004 - 10:06am
SADDAM IN 'TERROR TAPE'



New footage has been released purporting to show Saddam Hussein paying large sums of money to a terrorist group.

Liberal Democrat peer Baroness Nicholson says the footage is "incontrovertible proof" of the former Iraqi dictator's links to international terrorism.


It appears to show the former Iraqi President plotting crimes and paying money to members of an international terrorist group.

Baroness Nicholson says the group of men in the footage looked after Saddam's chemical and biological warfare.

The footage given to Sky News was reportedly looted from one of Saddam's palaces.

There has been no independent confirmation of the tapes and Sky News cannot verify their veracity.

However, Baroness Nicholson says there is no doubt the footage highlights Saddam's links to terrorism and chemical weapons.

"This is incontrovertible proof of Saddam Hussein's involvement in international terrorism," she said.

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-12986177,00.html

Renee

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Thu, 02-12-2004 - 10:16pm
George Bush's rule of this country is reminscent of that of Big Brother in George Orwell's "1984" Big Brother spreaded propoganda to ellicit his wants. Before war on Iraq was declared, Bush stated that the reason he was making a war declaration was because "Iraq has biological weapons capabilities" and the like. It now appears as though Bush's justification for war was completely illegitimate. The CIA found no evidence to support Bush. What does this tell us: Bush manipulated the facts for personal gain. While he was busy wasting tax dollars and the lives of soldiers in Iraq, more imminent threats to the Untied States have grown, Bin Laden, unemployment and homelessness.
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Thu, 02-12-2004 - 11:25pm
>> You're more likely to be killed in a traffic accident than by a terrorist.

I tend to agree with that, but the idea that terrorists are trying to attack us in a major and spectacular way is a bit un-nerving, dont you agree?

We were already supplying the Germans with food and other supplies before Germany officially declared war on us. They were torpedoing (sp?) our supply ships before the formal declaration of war.

"Aid to England 1940

April - British Security Coordination office was established by Canadian-born William S. Stephenson, code-named Intrepid, who arrived in the United States to "assure sufficient aid for Britain, to counter the enemy's subversive plans throughout the Western Hemisphere and eventually to bring the United States into the War" (Thomas Mahl, Desperate Deception, p.10)"

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Fri, 02-13-2004 - 9:02am

>"the idea that terrorists are trying to attack us in a major and spectacular way is a bit un-nerving, dont you agree?"<


Personally I'm not un-nerved or afraid, but I

 


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Registered: 03-26-2003
Sat, 02-14-2004 - 1:33pm
I see your point about WWII.

With regards to the terror alerts, my anxiety level does go up slightly, especially if the alert is increased just around the time I have to fly for business.

I now find myself sitting on the plane and making sure that I am alert to any strange happenings.

I was actually on a plane just about a year after 9/11, where one of the passengers became disoriented, and would not sit down, and kept approaching the forward part of the plane. It did make some people nervous, and finally a few of the other passengers had to take the man back to his seat and almost restrain him. It was not overly physical, but it was slightly unnerving. By the time we arrived at our destination airport, the incident had passed as the man ended up falling asleep, and we were met by EMT's and Federal Air Marshalls, who escorted the man off the plane.

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Registered: 05-06-2003
Sat, 02-14-2004 - 4:26pm
I am more nervous when I walk into the train station and see men with big guns then someone behaving strangely.

But that might have something to do with the way I look.
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Registered: 03-31-2003
Sat, 02-14-2004 - 5:57pm
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That was Kay's opinion, not his finding. His findings had nothing to do with if the war was right or wrong - his job was to find the WMD. A small but important distinction.

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Registered: 03-31-2003
Sat, 02-14-2004 - 6:05pm
Okay...I have to ask...what do you look like that would make you nervous about men with guns?
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Sat, 02-14-2004 - 7:09pm
Well, that does not bother me, considering that they are trained to use such weaponry.

I can see how someone can feel uncomfortable with having such weaponry out, but remember, sometimes the display of force is just enough of a deterrant.

The way you look......do you resemble Osama bin Laden?

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Sat, 02-14-2004 - 7:17pm
There was picture resembles this one that Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam. Does that mean US support a tyrant or terrorist? Because according to difinition of Bush those who using chemical weapon are terrorist and at that time Saddam used gas against Iranian and Kurds.

Quote, "Rumsfeld backed Saddam even after chemical attacks

By Andrew Buncombe in Washington

24 December 2003

Fresh controversy about Donald Rumsfeld's personal dealings with Saddam Hussein was provoked yesterday by new documents that reveal he went to Iraq to show America's support for the regime despite its use of chemical weapons.

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Tom Blanton, the director of the National Security Archive, a non-profit group that obtained the documents, told The New York Times: "Saddam had chemical weapons in the 1980s and it didn't make any difference to US policy. The embrace of Saddam and what it emboldened him to do should caution us as Americans that we have to look closely at all our murky alliances."

Last night, Danny Muller, a spokesman for the anti-war group Voices in the Wilderness, said the documents revealed America's "blatant hypocrisy". He added: "This is not an isolated event. Continuing administrations have said 'we will do business'. I am surprised that Donald Rumsfeld does not resign right now."

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=475931

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Registered: 05-06-2003
Sun, 02-15-2004 - 4:18pm
I'm often mistaken for Middle Eastern. Just after 9/11 I would get second (and sometimes third) looks from people on the street, including security officers.