We are Retaliating For Fallujah!!!

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-05-2004
We are Retaliating For Fallujah!!!
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Mon, 04-05-2004 - 1:42pm
I am happy to see that we are doing something!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4667031/

FALLUJAH, Iraq - Hundreds of U.S. and Iraqi troops in tanks, trucks and other vehicles surrounded the turbulent city of Fallujah on Monday ahead of a major operation against insurgents blamed for the grisly slayings of four American security contractors last week.

U.S. commanders have been vowing a massive response to pacify Fallujah, one of the most violent cities in the Sunni Triangle, the heartland of the anti-U.S. insurgency north and west of Baghdad.


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iVillage Member
Registered: 03-23-2003
Tue, 04-06-2004 - 11:04am

You may disagree but I've always been taught that respect is earned & then given...not beaten into & then taken by force.


iVillage Member
Registered: 04-05-2004
Tue, 04-06-2004 - 11:18am
Do you obey the laws that you disagree with? If you do, then you *respect* the law. That's all I ask from these fanatics. We will never get love or understanding so we can settle for respect.
iVillage Member
Registered: 03-23-2003
Tue, 04-06-2004 - 11:28am

Why should we have any expectation that they will 'obey'?


iVillage Member
Registered: 03-23-2003
Tue, 04-06-2004 - 11:35am
"Respecting the law" and "having respect" are two different things in my book.

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-05-2004
Tue, 04-06-2004 - 12:04pm
Are you serious??? Do you know why we invaded Iraq??? The only choice we had was to invade or prove to be the "paper tiger" they believed us to be. We threatened to use force if Saddam didn't comply. He thought we were weak-willed and he *didn't comply*. We had to be true to our word or the words would mean nothing.

There are 5 million citizens in Iraq. Most of the are *happy* we freed them from this tyrant. There are a few violent finatics that MUST be dealt with.

As far as weapons of mass destruction are concerned - How can you say they never existed??? He has USED weapons of mass destruction. That means *they existed* or he would not have been able to use them. By the same logic I suppose you could claim that Osama Bin Laden never existed, either. After all we are unable to find him now. It doesn't matter that there is proof that he existed in the past, does it?

minnie

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Registered: 04-05-2004
Tue, 04-06-2004 - 12:10pm
Well, actually there are three or four definitions for the word "respect". Look it up in your funk and Wagnall.
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Registered: 07-25-2003
Tue, 04-06-2004 - 12:19pm
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Exactly. I thought the piece about exactly what lynchings are was very insiteful.

Keep in mind that in Fallujah it's mostly Baathist leaders who are cuasing problems there. They are not religously or even politcially motivated. These aren't the guys who are killing themselves (although they are collaborating with them). They are reacting out of fear because they have lost their favored status in Iraq and are frightened that the Kurds & Shia are going to dominate the new Iraq & pay them back for 40 years of oppression. The public lynching was a call to others who feel the same way, but have been too timid to act out against the coalition.

One of the things we have learned over the last year is that the Baathist system was completely based on payoffs & bribes--not ideology, loyalty, or anything else. That is going to be good for us, because after we round up these dead enders in Fallujah, the rest of the citizenry, will start behaving, no matter how grudgingly, because they will want to make sure that they get their share of the the jobs and largess we'll soon be handing out, and they'll also want to be part of the new government.

Renee

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-23-2003
Tue, 04-06-2004 - 12:23pm

ROTFLOL!


iVillage Member
Registered: 03-23-2003
Tue, 04-06-2004 - 12:38pm

Are you serious??? Do you know why we invaded Iraq???


Hmmm....because of WMD?...or was that because of those supposed 'ties' to al Qaeda?...or was it to free the Iraqi people from Saddam?...there have been numerous reasons given each time the current reason has proven to not hold water.


iVillage Member
Registered: 04-05-2004
Tue, 04-06-2004 - 12:42pm
Thanks for the input. You're right, the article you posted was very insightful. I was unaware of their motivations, thanks for clarifying.

minnie

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