We are Retaliating For Fallujah!!!

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-05-2004
We are Retaliating For Fallujah!!!
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Mon, 04-05-2004 - 1:42pm
I am happy to see that we are doing something!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4667031/

FALLUJAH, Iraq - Hundreds of U.S. and Iraqi troops in tanks, trucks and other vehicles surrounded the turbulent city of Fallujah on Monday ahead of a major operation against insurgents blamed for the grisly slayings of four American security contractors last week.

U.S. commanders have been vowing a massive response to pacify Fallujah, one of the most violent cities in the Sunni Triangle, the heartland of the anti-U.S. insurgency north and west of Baghdad.


(For the rest of the story, click the link above)

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iVillage Member
Registered: 03-23-2003
Tue, 04-06-2004 - 6:18pm

You do realize that the sanctions were by the UNITED NATIONS, and, as such, should have been acted upon by a concensus of it's members?


iVillage Member
Registered: 03-23-2003
Tue, 04-06-2004 - 6:25pm

No, I did not say that we should put up with 'murder and mayhem'.


iVillage Member
Registered: 03-23-2003
Tue, 04-06-2004 - 6:40pm

How many times must we say, we don't care how the people who danced on the bodies of our people FEEL. We don't care if the Baathist thugs who set the ambush FEEL respect for us. They will be killed or captured and sent to prison.


In the first place, I never said that I cared about how those who committed that act 'FEEL'.


iVillage Member
Registered: 04-16-2003
Tue, 04-06-2004 - 6:59pm
I disagree. Take a look at this article.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A54024-2004Apr6.html

The final paragraph is worth coping for your convenience.

"But even if a chastened Bush administration and a newly-nervous international community could somehow reach agreement on bolstering Iraq with a stronger international presence, would it make any difference? After the last few days, the international online media is edging toward the view that it simply may be too late to save Iraq from civil war."

Here's another final paragraph from another source:

"The future of Iraq is looking to be quite tumultuous. The guerrilla conflict raging in the Sunni Arab areas of the country has shown no sign of abating, and now Muqtada is threatening to pull at least part of the Shi'ite community into open confrontation with the CPA. If Muqtada is successful, all eyes will be on Sistani to see whether he endorses Muqtadar's strategy. Sistani will have difficulty saying no since hatred against the US is a popular rallying cry in Iraq. If Sistani endorses Muqtada, then the past 12 months of the occupation will look awfully peaceful compared to what is still to come, Marquardt believes."

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FD07Ak03.html

Those who are informed knew that there was a window of time in which the US could achieve it's goal. It appears the window is closing.



iVillage Member
Registered: 04-05-2004
Tue, 04-06-2004 - 7:02pm
How would I feel if I had been living for 30 years under the fear that I or a member of my family could be tortured, murdered, or raped every day of my life. How would I feel if I had spent time in Saddam's torture chambers and been returned to my good life with the understanding that I won't give him any reason to become paranoid and throw me back in there, or to call me out and have me executed according to his whim? Or raped by his sons and their armies? How would I feel after 30 years of living under tyranny America came in and overthrew the dictator? I would feel overjoyed, as most of the 5 million Iraqis that are not part of Saddam's regime feel.

There are a few Iraquis who hate us. Most of them are part of the government we overthrew. We are not "cowing" a population. We are making it possible for them to live in freedom. For this most of them are very grateful.

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-05-2004
Tue, 04-06-2004 - 7:07pm
These are two opinion pieces. I have a different opinion. Time will tell.
iVillage Member
Registered: 03-23-2003
Tue, 04-06-2004 - 7:23pm

Well, the 'cowing' part was directly about Fallujah...not about the entire country.


I just don't know where you're getting this impression that


iVillage Member
Registered: 05-02-2003
Tue, 04-06-2004 - 7:41pm
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Yes I agree, it's impossible to get any accurate information from one or two sources and only one language, especially after those sources filter the infomation to they way they want to present it. The common person will never have access to the complete information as do the top few.

So,I too, look for other sources and even in other languages to try to get a more balanced amount of information. Unfortunately, even then, that is impossible, since I'm not directly where the initial source is at, but at least getting information from the various filtered sources helps more than just using limited sources.

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-05-2004
Tue, 04-06-2004 - 7:43pm
I do read (and post) articles from other countries. Not only that, I have traveled overseas and know how people feel about us. I love my country and do not have to agree with those who do not.

I'll admit that I have tried to read liberal websites, and this one is the only one that I can take. You will be surprised to learn that some of my views are considered liberal, for instance I am not at all against Affirmative Action. President Bush and I are opposite kinds of Republicans. He is socially conservative and fiscally liberal. I am just the opposite. He and I disagree on many issues. The war is not one of them. I will be voting for him mainly on his leadership in the war on terror. I also agree with him about tax cuts (only I believe the cuts should be deeper and more of them).

minnie

iVillage Member
Registered: 05-02-2003
Tue, 04-06-2004 - 7:52pm
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The real ironic thing is Bush took this idea from Pres Kennendy who did this type of tax cut and it did stimulate the economy like it is doing now.

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