We are Retaliating For Fallujah!!!

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We are Retaliating For Fallujah!!!
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Mon, 04-05-2004 - 1:42pm
I am happy to see that we are doing something!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4667031/

FALLUJAH, Iraq - Hundreds of U.S. and Iraqi troops in tanks, trucks and other vehicles surrounded the turbulent city of Fallujah on Monday ahead of a major operation against insurgents blamed for the grisly slayings of four American security contractors last week.

U.S. commanders have been vowing a massive response to pacify Fallujah, one of the most violent cities in the Sunni Triangle, the heartland of the anti-U.S. insurgency north and west of Baghdad.


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Wed, 04-07-2004 - 4:19am
No, it's not possible to respect someone you hate. That idea comes from inferior fiction and B movies. Hate has no room for respect, just revenge. Historically it usually takes a generation or two to cool the hatred and desire for revenge, when atrocities and/or great injustices have occurred.

C

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Wed, 04-07-2004 - 9:29am
President Kennedy was my kind of president. He was tough on defense and cut taxes, the two most important issues to me. If he were around today he would be labeled "exteme right-wing", LOL.

minnie

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Wed, 04-07-2004 - 9:32am
So we disagree. I think you are relating to a definition that ties respect to love. I am not. So we differ.

minnie

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Wed, 04-07-2004 - 9:39am
I don't know how you came to that conclusion. No, I read and use my common sense.

minnie

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Wed, 04-07-2004 - 9:41am
I am an American. When I say "we" I am referring to America and our allies.

minnie

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Wed, 04-07-2004 - 9:47am
I read, watch the news, etc. Where do you get *you're* "facts"? We disagree about invading Iraq. If we didn't use force, we would look weak to the enemy. A giant who is nothing but idle threats. I assure you that is the very reason we were attacked in the first place. Once the threat of force was made, we had to carry though, imo, or lose whatever credibility we had left after President Clinton's failed foreign policy. This is my opinion.
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Wed, 04-07-2004 - 9:52am
I'm not sure what you are saying here. What *who* did is evil beyond words? The people who drug our dead through the streets and hung their bodies on a bridge? I agree with you if you are referring to them. If not, do you support what they did, or find it somehow justified? I am confused, please clarify.

We invaded the country because Saddam Hussain did not comply with the UN resolutions. He had plenty of time to comply. This was his decision under the false belief that we would not do what we said we would do. What else could he think after years of idle threats from us?

minnie

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Wed, 04-07-2004 - 9:59am
I disagree that the points made by the people who hate America are valid. The people from other countries do not live here or really know what we are all about. They are basing their opinions on their own prejudices. I love America. I live here. Especially after the tragedy of 9-11 I know what kind of brave and caring people live here. My opinion, imo, is much more valid than theirs.

I have been to Germany (who have always hated us), Holland, and Switzerland. I plan to visit England this summer.

minnie

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Wed, 04-07-2004 - 10:30am
Here are a few articles linking Al Queada to Iraq. A story from Tacoma, Washington, hardly a conservative hotbed:

http://www.tribnet.com/24hour/world/story/869059p-6066689c.html

LONDON (April 26, 7:28 pm PDT) - Two newspapers reported that they found documents in the bombed out headquarters of Iraq's intelligence service that appear to show that Saddam Hussein's regime met with an al-Qaida envoy in 1998 and sought to arrange a meeting with Osama bin Laden.

Here's one from Fox:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,110749,00.html


Officials said that between 75 and 150 Al Qaeda members have been captured or killed in northern Iraq in recent days.

U.S. sources told Fox News that documents and equipment were found in the rubble of an Ansar facility that had been built into a cliff near Sargat. The material was described as "a cookbook and kitchen" for chemical weapons.

Here's one from the Weekly Standard:

http://weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/002/628wqxma.asp

OOPS. In what could go down as the Mother of All Copyediting Errors, Babil, the official newspaper of Saddam Hussein's government, run by his oldest son Uday, last fall published information that appears to confirm U.S. allegations of links between the Iraqi regime and al Qaeda. It adds one more piece to the small pile of evidence emerging from Iraq that, when added to the jigsaw puzzle we already had, makes obsolete the question of whether Saddam and Osama bin Laden were in league and leaves in doubt only the extent of the connection.

In its November 16, 2002, edition, Babil identified one Abd-al-Karim Muhammad Aswad as an "intelligence officer," describing him as the "official in charge of regime's contacts with Osama bin Laden's group and currently the regime's representative in Pakistan." A man of this name was indeed the Iraqi ambassador to Pakistan from the fall of 1999 until the fall of the regime.

Next Topic: The United Nations.

The United Nations lost all credibility when it failed to make good on the threats against Saddam Hussain. The United States, (who is the largest contributor to the United Nations) did not.

Next Topic: WMD

The Bush administration NEVER said that Saddam had nuclear weapons. They were aware of his nuclear program, and if Israel hadn't bombed one of his plants years ago he WOULD have had them by now. We knew he had the capability and was close, but also knew it wasn't imminent. The president said we must act BEFORE these treats are imminent.

Also, please explain your definition of bio-chemical weapons.

Next subject: The article

I don't think it was one sided at all. He said he didn't like it but was a patriotic american who knew that we were doing good overall, and that the Iraqi's deeply appreciated it.

The left is trying everything in its power to turn this into another Viet-nam but it WILL NOT WORK. I would advise to switch strategies because the times they are a -changing. The pendulum has swung back to love of country and the left has not noticed. 9-11 changed everything.

Also, our president has advisors all around him that understand the cultures over there completely. I am amazed to hear that statement from you.

minnie

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Registered: 03-23-2003
Wed, 04-07-2004 - 11:03am

Where are you getting this stuff???


Have you watched the news the past few days???

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