Bush: Iraqi prisoner abuse on Arab TV

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Wed, 05-05-2004 - 10:17am
Should Bush apologize on Arab TV?
Bush to address Iraqi prisoner abuse on Arab TV.

President Bush will give interviews to two Arab television networks Wednesday about reports of U.S. military personnel abusing Iraqi prisoners, the White House said.


White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the 10-minute interviews with Al-Hurra, a U.S.-sponsored network, and Al Arabiya will take place about 10 a.m. ET (1400 GMT) in the Map Room at the White House.


"This is an opportunity for the president to speak directly to the people of Arab nations and let them know that the images that we all have seen are shameful and unacceptable," McClellan told reporters during a Bush campaign tour.


Referring to photographs that have surfaced showing Iraqi prisoners being abused McClellan said, "The images do not represent what America stands for, nor do they represent the high standards of conduct that the military is committed to uphold. The U.S. believes in treating all people with dignity and respect."


Asked why Bush would not meet with the Arab network Al-Jazeera, McClellan would only say the other two networks "reach a wide range of people in the Middle East."


McClellan said the actions of the accused soldiers at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq "do not represent what 99 percent of the men and women in the military stand for." (Full story)


Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said Tuesday that he would take "all measures necessary" to ensure that abuse of detainees in Iraq "does not happen again."


Rumsfeld defended the Defense Department's handling of the matter in the face of congressional criticism, noting that a criminal investigation by the Army was under way and publicly disclosed three months before what he called "deeply disturbing" photographs were broadcast last week.


"This is a serious problem, and it's something the department is addressing," he said at a Pentagon news briefing. "The system works. The system works."


Rumsfeld said the criminal investigation was one of six launched since January.


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http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/05/iraq.abuse.main/index.html

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Tue, 05-11-2004 - 1:16pm

No, the facts support me - you just aren't reading them, or you're trying really hard not to listen to them.


The fact remains that these 7 men were put into that wing because of a petty prison fight.

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Tue, 05-11-2004 - 1:17pm

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Yeah, he's going to need a LOT of forgiveness from God......

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Tue, 05-11-2004 - 1:21pm

Presidents play a perfect game because none do. What is the real point of this constant whinning anyways? It happened and it's being dealt with!


The thing that seperates us from those other people is that "constant whining."

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Tue, 05-11-2004 - 1:24pm

BRAVO!


Well said!

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Registered: 04-05-2004
Tue, 05-11-2004 - 1:26pm
Just as I suspected, the military didn't "comment" that 70% of the prisoners were in there incorrectly. This came from a Red Cross report and some intelligence sources. It is still bait and switch story. The 7 men who all this hub-bub is about was in the wing of the prison reserved for the more dangerous criminals. Not the other side where they housed the others.

As far as the 70 year old woman is concerned, I hope that this is not true. Since she refuses to be named I must have some questions. If she was abused in this manner I think it's horrible, just like I think that the abuse of the men is horrible and shouldn't be tolerated. And the story did not imply that she was some innocent old woman who arrested on a traffic violation. It said that she was arrested because she was suspected of having links to a member of Saddam Hussain's regime. The story didn't elaborate any further than this.

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Tue, 05-11-2004 - 1:30pm

Some people have a real knack for twisting and distorting the truth to fit their own image of what the truth should be.


So, because the woman refused to be named because she didn't want her family and community to know of her humiliation, that makes it less true, right?


And even though you continue to contend that these men were in the section of the prison where "the most dangerous criminals" were held, it doesn't mean that they were there CORRECTLY.

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Tue, 05-11-2004 - 1:32pm
Look in the mirror, my dear.
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Tue, 05-11-2004 - 1:36pm
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of the woman in her 70s and believed they were true.>>

And what's the difference between Ann Clwyd "believing" it may be true or inspectors "beliving" WOMD were being prepared in labs across Iraq? Why is it one sided to fit your sources that seem to you to be factual news links but any posted to support G. W. Bush or the administration or America in general seem to be passed off as just "propaganda"?? Funny isn't it? I have read too many posts about this one-sidedness and that's why I felt like responding. I know this isn't about WOMD but my point hopefully you can see here.

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Tue, 05-11-2004 - 1:38pm
Then why do you immediately think the worst about America? It hasn't been proven than 70 to 90 percent of the people were imprisioned by mistake. These are allegations. And there may have been some mistakes made as I've said before, considering how dangerous it is over there for Americans, but immediately believing only the bad things and none of the good shows an extreme bias, imo, against America.
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Tue, 05-11-2004 - 1:39pm

ROFL!


You won't address the release and offer of compensation for the abused prisoners?

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