Bush: Iraqi prisoner abuse on Arab TV

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Wed, 05-05-2004 - 10:17am
Should Bush apologize on Arab TV?
Bush to address Iraqi prisoner abuse on Arab TV.

President Bush will give interviews to two Arab television networks Wednesday about reports of U.S. military personnel abusing Iraqi prisoners, the White House said.


White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the 10-minute interviews with Al-Hurra, a U.S.-sponsored network, and Al Arabiya will take place about 10 a.m. ET (1400 GMT) in the Map Room at the White House.


"This is an opportunity for the president to speak directly to the people of Arab nations and let them know that the images that we all have seen are shameful and unacceptable," McClellan told reporters during a Bush campaign tour.


Referring to photographs that have surfaced showing Iraqi prisoners being abused McClellan said, "The images do not represent what America stands for, nor do they represent the high standards of conduct that the military is committed to uphold. The U.S. believes in treating all people with dignity and respect."


Asked why Bush would not meet with the Arab network Al-Jazeera, McClellan would only say the other two networks "reach a wide range of people in the Middle East."


McClellan said the actions of the accused soldiers at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq "do not represent what 99 percent of the men and women in the military stand for." (Full story)


Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said Tuesday that he would take "all measures necessary" to ensure that abuse of detainees in Iraq "does not happen again."


Rumsfeld defended the Defense Department's handling of the matter in the face of congressional criticism, noting that a criminal investigation by the Army was under way and publicly disclosed three months before what he called "deeply disturbing" photographs were broadcast last week.


"This is a serious problem, and it's something the department is addressing," he said at a Pentagon news briefing. "The system works. The system works."


Rumsfeld said the criminal investigation was one of six launched since January.


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Tue, 05-11-2004 - 10:40pm
Who is responsible?

If straight talk of savagery offends you, if you believe in ethnic and

gender diversity but not diversity of thought or if you think there is

an acceptable gray area between good and evil, then turn to the funny

pages, and take the children, too. This piece is not for you.



We published pictures Thursday of burnt American corpses hanging from

an Iraqi bridge behind a mob of grinning Muslims. Some readers didn't

like it.



Mothers said it frightened their children. A woman who works with

Muslim physicians thought it might offend or endanger them.



Well, we sure don't want to frighten, offend or endanger anybody, do

we? That's just too much diversity to handle. I mean, somebody might

get hurt.



We could fill the newspaper every morning with mobs of fanatical

Muslims. They can't get along with their neighbors on much of the

planet: France,Chechnya, Bosnia, Indonesia, Spain, Morocco, India,

Tunisia, Somalia,etc. etc. etc. Can anybody name three ongoing world

conflicts in which Muslims are not involved? Today, where there is war,

there are fanatical Muslims.



We might quibble about who started what conflicts, but look at the

sheer number of them.



One thing is sure. Muslim killers started the one we are in now when

they slaughtered more that 3,000 people, including fellow Muslims, in

New York City.



Madeleine Albright, the former secretary of state and reckless

appeaser who helped get us into this mess, said last week Muslims still

resent the Crusades. Well, Madam Albright, if Westerners were not such

a forgiving people, we might resent them too.



Let's recap the Crusades. Muslims invaded Europe, and when they

reached sufficient numbers, they imposed their intolerant religion upon

Westerners by force. Christian monarchs drove them back and took the

battle to their homeland. The fight lasted a couple of centuries, and

we bottled them up for 1,000 years.



Now, a millennium later, Muslims have expanded forth again. Ask

France. Ask England. Ask Manhattan. Two-and-a-half years ago fanatical

Muslims laid siege to us. We woke up to the obvious. Our president

announced it would be a very long war, then took the battle to the

Islamic homeland. Sound Familiar?



Let's consider the concept of a "long war.! " Last time it was 200

years, give or take. Anybody catch Lord of the Rings? You know, the

good part, the part that wasn't fiction, the part that drew us to the

books and movies because it was the truest part: the titanic struggle

between good and evil, between freedom and enslavement, between the

individual and the state, between the celebration of life and the

worshipping of death.



That's the fight we are in, and it never ends. It just has peaks and

valleys.



There may be a silent majority of peaceful Muslims - some live here -

but that did not save 3,000 people in the World Trade Center, the

million gassed and butchered in the Middle East, the tens of thousands

slain in Easter Europe and Asia, the hundreds blown to bits in the West

Bank and Spain, or the four Americans shot, burned and hung like sausage

over the Euphrates as a fanatical minority of Muslims did the joyful

dance of death.



Maybe we are so tolerant, we are so bent on "diversity," we are so

nonjudgmental, we are so wrapped up in our six-packs and ballgames that

our brains have drained to our bulbous behinds. Maybe we're so addled

on Ritalin we wouldn't know which end of a gun to hold. Maybe we need a

new drug advertised on TV every three minutes, one that would help us

grow a backbone.



It doesn't take a Darwin to figure out that in this world the

smartest,the fastest, the strongest, and the most committed always win.

No exceptions.



Look at your spouse and children. Look at yourself in the mirror.

Then look at the pictures from the paper last Thursday. You better look

at them. Those are the people out to kill you.

Who do you think will win? You? Or them? Think you can take your

ball and go home and they will leave you alone? Read a little history.

Start with last week, last month, last year, and every other year back

for half a century. Then go back a thousand years. Nobody hides from

this fight.



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Tue, 05-11-2004 - 10:41pm
Dear janna, Please enlighten us. What are the

categories, and what category does beheading fall

under?

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Tue, 05-11-2004 - 11:25pm
If the venom in this post produced energy, we could forget about alternative sources of power...I'm sure that Gandhi, Martin Luther King, JR., Jesus Christ, Buddha, Dorothy Day and myriads of other non-violent crusaders of various religious and ethnic backgrounds would be pleased to learn that "the strongest, the smartest and the fastest always win...no exceptions!" When you get over whatever is making you so angry, you might remember that the "Muslim killers" who "started this" were not from Iraq, nor is there any connection between Iraq and the terrible tragedy of 9/11 - WE started this with an unprecedented pre-emptive strike - so go looking for your "fanatical Muslim killers" if it makes you happy, but just remember "those who attempt to ride the tiger almost always end up inside!" Yes, as you suggest, I will look at my spouse and children, as well as myself, and all four of us will continue to pray that the God of peace will somehow touch the hearts of all those who hate, regardless of ethnicity or religion...it is our only hope!

 

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Wed, 05-12-2004 - 7:55am
It's been reported in the news.
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Registered: 04-05-2004
Wed, 05-12-2004 - 7:56am
huh?
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Registered: 04-05-2004
Wed, 05-12-2004 - 7:58am
No it wasn't. The hard site was the wing in the prison where they put the most dangerous prisoners. It housed terrorists, insurgents, and people who were in violent uprisings.
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Registered: 04-05-2004
Wed, 05-12-2004 - 8:08am
No I haven't asked myself why so many people hate America. I accept it as a fact. It doesn't matter why. I prefer not to don a burka and learn to pray to a god who advacates savage murder as a proselytizing tool for 12 hours each day, and not to have any rights (I'm a woman). In order for most these savages to "like me" I would have to conform to their fanatical belief system. I'm not interested. I don't even care if the Iraqi's like me. We have liberated them from Saddam Hussain and America is safer because of it, that is enough for me.

I won't address all of the Anti-American propaganda. You and I disagree. I love and appreciate my freedoms here in America. You are free not to.

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Registered: 05-10-2004
Wed, 05-12-2004 - 11:52am
Doesn't it annoy you that some people refuse to see any connection with 9/11 and Iraq (Saddam Hussein)? Even though it's been reported many times over that he harbored the terrorists and some of those linked to Osama Bin Laden. We have had problems with Iraq and Saddam for sometime now and it sure wasn't as if he sat pretty with a halo over his head. America had plenty of right to what they did and even when the UN was involved Saddam refused to cooperate. President Bush made a promise to America that he would spend his time in office mainly on the fight on terrorism and I didn't see anyone screaming at the TV right after 9/11 when he said that. The people who disliked Bush or America had issues before any of this happened and now uses so much of the downside of this all as an excuse to defend their dislike/hate/bitterness. Well I say get over it!
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Wed, 05-12-2004 - 12:55pm
If you think that your country (US) went into Iraq to liberate those "savages" (your words)from Saddam, and that it has nothing to do with OIL and World dominance. Then I suggest that you should go back to your life of freedom and put your head back in the sand.

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