Bush: Iraqi prisoner abuse on Arab TV

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Bush: Iraqi prisoner abuse on Arab TV
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Wed, 05-05-2004 - 10:17am
Should Bush apologize on Arab TV?
Bush to address Iraqi prisoner abuse on Arab TV.

President Bush will give interviews to two Arab television networks Wednesday about reports of U.S. military personnel abusing Iraqi prisoners, the White House said.


White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the 10-minute interviews with Al-Hurra, a U.S.-sponsored network, and Al Arabiya will take place about 10 a.m. ET (1400 GMT) in the Map Room at the White House.


"This is an opportunity for the president to speak directly to the people of Arab nations and let them know that the images that we all have seen are shameful and unacceptable," McClellan told reporters during a Bush campaign tour.


Referring to photographs that have surfaced showing Iraqi prisoners being abused McClellan said, "The images do not represent what America stands for, nor do they represent the high standards of conduct that the military is committed to uphold. The U.S. believes in treating all people with dignity and respect."


Asked why Bush would not meet with the Arab network Al-Jazeera, McClellan would only say the other two networks "reach a wide range of people in the Middle East."


McClellan said the actions of the accused soldiers at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq "do not represent what 99 percent of the men and women in the military stand for." (Full story)


Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said Tuesday that he would take "all measures necessary" to ensure that abuse of detainees in Iraq "does not happen again."


Rumsfeld defended the Defense Department's handling of the matter in the face of congressional criticism, noting that a criminal investigation by the Army was under way and publicly disclosed three months before what he called "deeply disturbing" photographs were broadcast last week.


"This is a serious problem, and it's something the department is addressing," he said at a Pentagon news briefing. "The system works. The system works."


Rumsfeld said the criminal investigation was one of six launched since January.


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http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/05/iraq.abuse.main/index.html

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Registered: 04-05-2004
Fri, 05-14-2004 - 7:36am
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Registered: 05-12-2004
Fri, 05-14-2004 - 9:58am
Okay, susiegail, I'll respond even though I really have lots to do and

writing on boards isn't one of them.

First of all, " narrow minded" and " hate filled" is your mud slinging and

what did you say about mud slingers? Something about them being unintelligent?

I asked a question--which I really am asking---with all the constant

b-------; how can you tell that the liberals are really patriots?

I honestly can't.

When was the last time you said something nice or positive about the United States?

(I'm an independent, by the way)

Our troops need our support, period.

I'm not 100% sure why we are over there but we are there now and our people

are under horrific stress and in mortal danger every day!!!!

You claim to be a teacher. Yet, you call a difference of opinion: "hate filled"

and "narrow minded". No wonder, a great many people say that our school children

are being brainwashed; when a difference of opinion is "hatefilled and narrow minded".

You also chastise me for calling treehugger a "Scarlet U". Why don't you reread

my posts. I never called her or anyone alse a "Scarlet U".

The problem with SOME liberals is that they misrepresent the facts. I did not say as a statement;

Liberals are unAmerican--I'm asking a sincere question--how can you tell if they

are constantly slamming the United States?

I don't understand their patriotism.

Okay, if you are going to do some more mud slinging; I may not get

to answer you in the timely manner that you feel I should.




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Registered: 09-05-2003
Fri, 05-14-2004 - 10:10am

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Registered: 04-05-2004
Fri, 05-14-2004 - 10:21am
good post.
iVillage Member
Registered: 04-05-2004
Fri, 05-14-2004 - 10:24am
She didn't attack you, she asked how you can tell. Why don't you answer the question. It is legitimate, don't you have a legitimate answer?
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Registered: 08-05-2003
Fri, 05-14-2004 - 10:33am
You are twisting my words, I never said that the reservists were any such thing! Did you watch 60 minutes II this week? Did you see the video that one of the female reservists did? Her words were that they were never told what to expect when they got there and that she wants to go home. She videoed the prison area and talked about the sand vipers that bit one of the prisoners and killed him and said "oh well that's one less I have to take care of". And yes we kicked Saddam out of Kuwait, all for the love of oil. Don't you think this war is for the same reason?

I know first hand that recruiters lie through their teeth to get recruits into the military. Did you know that in the army everyone goes in and their mo is infantry, but then they end up behind desks pushing papers? I am stating that some, not all, of the soldiers were not properly trained for this TDY. Our military is lacking in training.

Reservists (and my dh was a reservist for 6 yrs.) go to summer camp for 2 weeks and meet once a month unlike the full timers. I have nothing against reservists. And as for the recruiters..I was in the Air Force during the Vietnam era and do you know what the recruiter told me? That I would be a stewardess on military flights, yeah right!! Do you know what my mo was when all was said and done? A medic!
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Registered: 04-22-2003
Fri, 05-14-2004 - 10:40am
I cut that part out because you keep on talking about reasons which have been refuted so many times. The way you have posted so many quotes, I can too saying opposite that

"No WMD found"

"Iraq not immediate threat." etc etc. It really doesnot prove much.

Not even once have I said that Saddam was a good guy. The fact still remains that the people who are here now are not facing the war in Iraq, neither are they fighting in the war. I have also talked to Iraqi people who are opposed to the war. So that doesnot mean anything. People used to hold jobs go to work etc even while Saddam was ruling. Yes they did not have freedom of speech and many other things we enjoy, but it is their crusade. Independent always comes from within. They have to start a movement. Look at the history. All countries have fought for freedom by starting a movement themselves. Who are we to think that Iraq was not capable? Take India for e.g. we got freedom from British rule when Mahatma Gandhi and his followers started the movement. You think those poeple were not tortured by Brittish, not raped.. You will find many of the Anglo Indians are product of rape by British soldiers, but in the end we did get freedom. Same way any bad ruler may last long but not for ever.
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Registered: 05-12-2004
Fri, 05-14-2004 - 11:04am
1) Am I talking to you, James?

Are you constantly trashing America-since you responded; maybe I am. How can you be patriotic when constant bashing the US is putting our troops in greater danger?

2)I don't care if you think it's a honest question or not. You make a lot of assumptions,

James. You also assume that susiegail wasn't necessarily talking to me. Aren't you the

bright one. The post was addressed to me and the message stated comments I made. That sounds like it was addressed to me.

3) I don't care if you think I'm hateful, hate-filled, hating or hate directed.

I'm not running for office and I don't have to pander to people I don't like and

respect.

What I was pointing out to susiegail was that she was calling me names yet saying people that called others names were unintelligent.

A no-brainer since YOU PEOPLE love to call other people names.

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Registered: 03-18-2000
Fri, 05-14-2004 - 11:11am

Palak, what are your thoughts on the elections? I posted the story yesterday.......


http://messageboards.ivillage.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=iv-elinthenews&msg=6538.1


Chris

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Fri, 05-14-2004 - 11:50am

Yes - I believe the quote was "right war for the wrong reason."


Indeed.


You can justify anything AFTER the fact.

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