Proof of WMDs?

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Registered: 05-06-2003
Proof of WMDs?
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Mon, 05-17-2004 - 2:43pm
>>Sarin Nerve Agent Bomb Explodes in Iraq

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A roadside bomb containing deadly sarin nerve agent exploded near a U.S. military convoy, the U.S. military said Monday. It was believed to be the first confirmed discovery of any of the banned weapons that the United States cited in making its case for the Iraq war.

Two members of a military bomb squad were treated for "minor exposure," but no serious injuries were reported.

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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040517/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_sarin

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iVillage Member
Registered: 04-03-2003
In reply to: jadethief
Mon, 05-17-2004 - 3:51pm
Well, we still don't know if there are "massive stockpiles" there. We didn't even know for a fact that ANY wmd's were still there, as we hadn't been able to locate them. But we do now know that at least some exist there, and wmd's, regardless of the quantity of them, are a threat to anyone. The same applies to the question of wmd programs... we knew that such programs existed back in the 90's, and we now have as evidence of those programs two fruits of them.

That the two devices recently discovered didn't work as intended doesn't mean that they didn't exist, or that other such wmd's don't exist, or that none of them which may appear in the future will work. They are there, and that part of the question surrounding Iraq is now answered to at least some degree. WMD's, manufactured by the Hussein government, exist in Iraq.


~mark~

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Registered: 04-03-2003
In reply to: jadethief
Mon, 05-17-2004 - 3:53pm
Not a problem. I suppose time and probably unfortunate circumstances will tell the tale on just how many of these things are out there.


~mark~

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Registered: 07-25-2003
In reply to: jadethief
Mon, 05-17-2004 - 4:09pm
<<>"Since the war ended, the U.S.-led coalition has found several caches that tested positive for mustard gas but later turned out to contain missile fuel or other chemicals.>>

Those false positives were all field tests which are designed that way to make sure those in the field are overly cautious around questionable substances. The lab tests are arrurate and the only ones Centcom & the administration refer to, so the mustard gas that was found was indeed mustard gas. We'll have to wait for the follow up testing to determine if the serin is indeed serin.

Renee

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Registered: 07-25-2003
In reply to: jadethief
Mon, 05-17-2004 - 4:14pm
Interesting use of quotes especially since you can't come up with any real ones by the administration making that case.

Renee

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Registered: 07-25-2003
In reply to: jadethief
Mon, 05-17-2004 - 4:14pm
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We never supplied Iraq with chemical or biological weapons, & the conventional weapons we sold to them, were used in the Iran war and you'd be hard pressed to come up with anything that was left by the Gulf War let alone still floating around now.

Renee

iVillage Member
Registered: 09-05-2003
In reply to: jadethief
Mon, 05-17-2004 - 4:17pm

But we do now know that at least some exist there, and wmd's, regardless of the quantity of them, are a threat to anyone. The same applies to the question of wmd programs... we knew that such programs existed back in the 90's, and we now have as evidence of those programs two fruits of them.


Well we have only had one "fruit" of them.

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-25-2003
In reply to: jadethief
Mon, 05-17-2004 - 4:24pm
<< And for that, now we have a single bomb with 20 year old Sarin gas that was no longer capable of being effective.>>

And how do you know how old it was? It didn't disperse into a very wide area because it has to be delivered in a way that mixes the ingredients in the two chambers together.

This is not stuff that has been accounted for. Saddam said he disposed of it, but couldn't give the inspectors any soil samples, remnants, or documentation to indicate it was. This was one more Iraq's now numerous violoations of UN sanctions.

Renee

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Registered: 04-05-2004
In reply to: jadethief
Mon, 05-17-2004 - 4:25pm
Saddam claimed to have destroyed *all* Sarin gas prior to the first gulf war. This proves that he lied about it, which must shatter some people who had placed so much faith in Saddam's truthfulness...
iVillage Member
Registered: 09-05-2003
In reply to: jadethief
Mon, 05-17-2004 - 4:28pm
Actually I had already taken that out because the article that tree posted about the Sarin gas was about the "general" state of their stockpile and not about this particular bomb.
iVillage Member
Registered: 04-05-2004
In reply to: jadethief
Mon, 05-17-2004 - 4:29pm
Good try, James....

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