Proof of WMDs?

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Registered: 05-06-2003
Proof of WMDs?
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Mon, 05-17-2004 - 2:43pm
>>Sarin Nerve Agent Bomb Explodes in Iraq

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A roadside bomb containing deadly sarin nerve agent exploded near a U.S. military convoy, the U.S. military said Monday. It was believed to be the first confirmed discovery of any of the banned weapons that the United States cited in making its case for the Iraq war.

Two members of a military bomb squad were treated for "minor exposure," but no serious injuries were reported.

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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040517/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_sarin

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Registered: 04-09-2003
In reply to: jadethief
Thu, 05-20-2004 - 7:00pm
It's entirely possible that someone snitched, after all, there's a lengthy list of possible contenders.

One might also want to consider that after being warned and having posts pulled, both the cl and the cm have begun to monitor this board more closely?

And frankly, it's not the dishing, but rather the lack of logic that starts to wear thin.

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Registered: 05-10-2004
In reply to: jadethief
Thu, 05-20-2004 - 7:05pm
You call it lack of logic...I call it overwhelming frustration with ignorance and narrow mindedness.
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Registered: 04-09-2003
In reply to: jadethief
Thu, 05-20-2004 - 7:22pm
I'm afraid that there's enough ignorance and narrow-mindedness to go both ways.

Sometimes what seems logical to the person posting makes no sense to the reader, not because the reader is dense, but because the poster is not as clear as he/she might think. What may start out as a logical thought may not be communicated well through, perhaps, no fault of the poster.

Not trying to provoke an attack, just share a thought. You're right, I probably am older than you. Given that, I also don't choose to get all my news from one source. I read liberal news, I read conservative news, I read foreign news, and then I make up my own mind.

I hear time and again about the bias of the 'liberal media' and you know what scares me most? The thought that the people who clearly see bias in the 'liberal media' think that the right-wing media is any different. One side is NOT more accurate than the other, just because it happens to be the side with which you agree. There is no 'fair and balanced' news anymore, it's all editorial.

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Registered: 05-10-2004
In reply to: jadethief
Thu, 05-20-2004 - 7:40pm
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I don't understand what does your age have to do with what information you chose to believe as opposed to which one I choose? Is it that I am viewed as more "right-wing" that I somehow follow the right-wing propaganda but somehow you seem to see the difference and that left-wing propaganda doesn't blind you at all? I have a problem with people labeling those who are in support of this war to an extent and don't jump on the band wagon of the Bush Haters clan, that somehow we are misguided and blindly patriotic. On these boards alone I see nothing but dismissal of those supporting this war's "sources/information" from left wing Bush haters, and a constant battle to defend our right to make sense of this situation. On the other hand you have left-wingers posting thier" sources" as factual information and their opinions as the way it is.

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Registered: 03-23-2003
In reply to: jadethief
Thu, 05-20-2004 - 7:41pm

I hear time and again about the bias of the 'liberal media' and you know what scares me most? The thought that the people who clearly see bias in the 'liberal media' think that the right-wing media is any different. One side is NOT more accurate than the other, just because it happens to be the side with which you agree. There is no 'fair and balanced' news anymore, it's all editorial.


Exactly...and that complaint has been aired by many posters on this message board.


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Registered: 04-05-2004
In reply to: jadethief
Thu, 05-20-2004 - 8:13pm
It is my opinion that Libya came clean because they saw that we mean business in Iraq. I really think it's pretty clear what happened. I think it's a stretch to believe otherwise, at the very least the invasion hastened it. Look at how quickly they came clean once they saw that President Bush wasn't going to mess around.
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Registered: 04-05-2004
In reply to: jadethief
Thu, 05-20-2004 - 8:27pm
Don't let it bother you Britogal. I haven't read all your posts, but I think you have made some good points in the posts that I've read. You're not going to change everyone's minds. To some people politics and hatred of the other side are so ingrained, that it is almost a religion.

Maybe there are open minded lurkers that will read both sides and decide what sounds more reasonable.

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Registered: 04-05-2004
In reply to: jadethief
Thu, 05-20-2004 - 8:33pm
You don't have to be psychic to see this. Libya came clean *immediately* after we invaded Iraq. They saw President Bush was serious and did what he said he would do, so after messing their pants, they quickly started cooperating in a big way.
iVillage Member
Registered: 04-09-2003
In reply to: jadethief
Thu, 05-20-2004 - 8:40pm
You know what I see?

I see people citing FOX news over and over as a source of credible information, and self-serving, egotistically-bloated blowholes like Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Really placed upon pedestals as some higher level of intellect.

I see posters citing Hannity and Colmes as an equally balanced show of power. There is no balance. Did Rupert Murdoch even ATTEMPT to find a liberal who could hold his own against Hannity's blustering? No he picked Alan Colmes, a weakling who couldn't fight his way through an intellectual bowl of soggy corn flakes.

I see posters being labeled 'unamerican' for daring to question the current administration, as if the ability to question isn't one of the things upon which this country is built. Do I question the way our country is being led?? D@mn skippy, I do!! For those who think it makes me less American, maybe they don't know what being an American really means.

I support our military, because I remember Vietnam. I had two brothers who served their country in tour after tour because they felt that it was their duty. Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, only to return home to a country and a people that spit upon them if they dared to leave the house in uniform.

And it's because I remember that I fight. I question everything. There are days that I feel that this country is being led horribly astray, and that we have entered into this war without seeing the ramifications that will haunt us for years to come. I see a president using our military to make a name for himself in history, so he can finally be remembered as a 'soldier,' but at what cost to the rest of us.

I don't want to fight with you, but if even one word that I write makes you look beyond the 'fair and balanced' coverage and doubt the veracity of their version of events, I'll gladly hang up my gloves and retire.

Take care.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
In reply to: jadethief
Thu, 05-20-2004 - 11:33pm
I do agree that Lybia most likely came around due to their fear of this administration but unfortunatly I don't quite see GWB as the Cowboy hero you do. He is a bully and this one small win is not worth all we have lost...My problem with this war is the lies we were told by this administration. Aren't we suppose to be avenging 9/11? When he speaks of terrorism isn't he refering to those who attacked us? I am still waiting for the Sadam connection. Can you supply it?

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