Marriage ain't what it used to be

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Marriage ain't what it used to be
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Mon, 05-17-2004 - 5:37pm
The first couple to receive marriage liscense confirms what critics described as most likely pattern for gay marriage.

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=28184

"e says the concept of forever is``overrated'' and that he, as a bisexual, and Rogahn, who is gay, have chosen to enjoy an open marriage. ``I think it's possible to love more than one person and have more than one partner, not in the polygamist sense,'' he said.``In our case, it is, we have, an open marriage.''"



Renee

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Registered: 05-10-2004
Tue, 05-18-2004 - 6:27pm
Irrational? LMAO. When? Check out her response to me and then we can discuss who sounds irrational and rather HYPOCRITCAL:)
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Tue, 05-18-2004 - 6:30pm


LOL! If you want to dismiss reputable scientic research so cavalierly, you must at least be able to point to a study to back up your assertion.

Renee

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Registered: 05-27-2003
Tue, 05-18-2004 - 10:58pm
Can I ask where you got that information?
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Registered: 04-09-2003
Wed, 05-19-2004 - 12:38am
If I may paraphrase one of your own earlier posts...

>>May I ask where in the world you came from anyways? It wasn't directed toward you ... yet you stuck your nose in it, commented on it... I can't for the life of me understand people who get themselves into a situation and then complain about it.<<

Nor can I, dear, nor can I.

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Registered: 05-19-2004
Wed, 05-19-2004 - 4:00am
If you're going to do that, there's no point being married. Firstly, you are going against the terms of marriage. Secondly marriage is a commitment. Sleeping with lots of other men/women or whatever is your choice is not commited. I would never do that to my partner. He's the one for me :) I'm not sure if it's marriage that isn't the same though. People and their attitudes have changed.
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Wed, 05-19-2004 - 7:42am

LOL! If you want to dismiss reputable scientic research so cavalierly, you must at least be able to point to a study to back up your assertion.


Nothing as hateful and bigoted as those statements are reputable in my book.

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Registered: 05-10-2004
Wed, 05-19-2004 - 11:36am
First don't call me dear as you know nothing about me:) Secondly can you explain your purpose for that comment and quote? I don't recall complaining about two people's conversations and then entering myself into it to just complain about it in it's entirity.

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Registered: 04-09-2003
Wed, 05-19-2004 - 1:51pm
It was actually quite amusing. ROFLMAO

You objected vehemently to gandolf grey's comment in what you felt was a private conversation between yourself and another poster, and attempted to chastise him for interfering, yet you think nothing of jumping in and responding to a post was not directed toward you and does not contain mention of you. It was clearly directed toward Janna.

But (insert gasp and shocked facial expression here) that would be hypocritical, wouldn't it??

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Registered: 07-25-2003
Wed, 05-19-2004 - 2:20pm
I googled and looked for scientific studies from reputable journals.

Here's an artile about gay relationships in the Netherlands which has had gay marriage long enough to study the results.

Study finds gay unions brief

THE WASHINGTON TIMES

A recent study on homosexual relationships finds they last 1-1/2 years on average — even as homosexual groups are pushing nationwide to legalize same-sex "marriages."

The study of young Dutch homosexual men by Dr. Maria Xiridou of the Amsterdam Municipal Health Service, published in May in the journal AIDS, mirrors findings of past research.

Among heterosexuals, by contrast, 67 percent of first marriages in the United States last at least 10 years, and researchers report that more than three-quarters of married people say they have been faithful to their vows.

Same-sex "marriage" has gained new attention since a Supreme Court decision last month struck down state laws against homosexual behavior. Conservative activists say they expect the state Supreme Court in Massachusetts to rule this weekend on whether to recognize homosexual "marriages."

The Dutch study — which focused on transmission of HIV ��� found that men in homosexual relationships on average have eight partners a year outside those relationships.

Earlier studies also indicated that homosexual men are not monogamous, even when they are involved in long-term relationships.

In "The Male Couple," published in 1984, authors David P. McWhirter and Andrew M. Mattison report that in a study of 156 males in homosexual relationships lasting anywhere from one to 37 years, all couples with relationships more than five years had incorporated some provision for outside sexual activity.

"Fidelity is not defined in terms of sexual behavior but rather by their emotional commitment to each other," the authors said. "Ninety-five percent of the couples have an arrangement whereby the partners may have sexual activity with others."

Renee

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Registered: 03-25-2004
Wed, 05-19-2004 - 5:28pm
And here is the complete text of the article for anyone interested. I didn't see anything about a study of gay marriage in the Netherlands, although there was an HIV tranmission study, and there is no evidence of anything they source being from a reputable journal.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20030711-121254-3711r.htm

I find it interesting that the first line of the article says: "A recent study on homosexual relationships finds they last 1-1/2 years on average — even as homosexual groups are pushing nationwide to legalize same-sex "marriages."

I'd be interested to know the average length of heterosexual, unmarried couples, which is what that should be compared to instead of comparing it to first marriages in the U.S. That does not seem like apples to apples to me.

Glassy

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