Hollywood abuzz about 'Fahrenheit 9/11'

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Registered: 08-12-2003
Hollywood abuzz about 'Fahrenheit 9/11'
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Sun, 06-13-2004 - 2:23pm

"...and this country is really in the mood for somebody to tell ’em what they should think, what to do.”


That's exactly what democrats want--to tell the American people what we should think and what we should do. Unbelievable, he just gave away their secret! I'm glad I can think for myself, thank you.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5050832/


And how about the celebrity turnout for the premiere? Not a real shocker to see Martin Sheen, Demi Moore, Drew Barrymoore, et al excited to be there. And how about Camryn Manheim who was also there, quoted, "A lot of us look to Michael Moore to uncover the real truth." ROFL.


*sigh* These people...

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Registered: 04-16-2004
Thu, 06-24-2004 - 10:26am
Oh...you are going to provide another review of the movie?

Okay.....let me know what you think, so I can wait for the "freebie" on cable.

Michael Isikoff was on Scarborough County last night, again blasting the movie for this exact thing, so I think that this is speaking for itself, as I don't see Mr. Moore slapping a libel suit against Isikoff or Newsweek as he threatened to do with any lies about his film.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Thu, 06-24-2004 - 10:42am
IndifferenceWhatéver Car_al ..... as long as MM or anyone else doesn't qualify and try to sell off

Djie

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Registered: 06-15-2004
Thu, 06-24-2004 - 10:56am
No, and we *all* don't undertake such behavior through making fraudulent claims in the *news*. We *all* don't deliberately misrepresent the context of objective facts in order to alter the meaning of those facts to those listening to us in our "news conferences".

Why is it okay to lie to the American public under the guise of "factual news conferences and press releases"? The biggest work of fiction of all has been the compost spouted by Bush Administration over the last 4 years.

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Registered: 03-25-2003
Thu, 06-24-2004 - 12:23pm
_ Djie_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________


Repetition gets so-o-o-o boring:

http://messageboards.ivillage.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=iv-elpoliticsto&msg=3046.37

http://messageboards.ivillage.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=iv-elpoliticsto&msg=3046.46

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Thu, 06-24-2004 - 1:53pm
i havent seen it yet but i plan to when its available for rent. i have no problem with MM lampooning the prez - i liked SNL's Clinton skits and the music video from Genesis that used a puppet of Ronnie Reagan and i like all the political cartoons posted in daily newspapers across the country - i dont see anything wrong with it. our countries history is full of this sort of propaganda - just look at all the campaign ads. this is like the brits who considered the american revolution a civil war between the rebels and the tories - the patriots just started out making fun of king george III and british rule and look what it lead to. those who are outraged over this movie screaming that its not a documentary and tarnishes the good name of real docs are just crybabies cuz its too close for comfort to the truth
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Registered: 06-04-2004
Thu, 06-24-2004 - 2:24pm
Did you not read anything that has been posted here about Moore's films and how it is edited to make things "seem" the way Moore views things? It uses partial facts and misinterpretations to sell to the people Moore's politcal view. Let me gues...you are voting for Kerry simply and only because he's not Bush?

Here is a read for you about Moore's notorious "misinterpretations" he passes off as "documentaries" it has been posted before along with other articles but I bet yo didn't read those either? You probably will just agree with Moore's POV solely because it supports your dislike for Bush regardless if they are based on fabrication and misinterpretations.

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Registered: 04-03-2003
Thu, 06-24-2004 - 2:36pm
"Why is it okay to lie to the American public under the guise of "factual news conferences and press releases"?"

Never said it was. But there you're talking about politicians, and lying is second nature to them. There's a little saying along those lines, forget the source but it's quite apt... When a dog urinates on a fire hydrant, it isn't committing vandalism, it's just being a dog. A politician lying amounts to the same thing to my mind.


~mark~

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Registered: 04-03-2003
Thu, 06-24-2004 - 2:44pm
As far as I'm concerned, it should first all of be appreciated for what it's *purported* and been *promoted* to be, a *DOCUMENTARY*. What that review is saying is basically that in SPITE of it supposedly being a documentary, we should just enjoy Moore engaging in demagoguery, lies, and misrepresentation, as that's "really" what the movie is about. If you find yourself agreeing with him, great, but all you and he/she is doing is making excuses for the fraudulent behavior and claims of Moore, rationalizing actions totally out of place in a "documentary".

If Moore just wants to take shots at Bush, fine, no problem. If he feels it necessary to fabricate, misrepresent and lie, no problem. But DON'T do it in what he is claiming (and has won awards for) as "documentary". It's plainly not.


~mark~

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Registered: 04-03-2003
Thu, 06-24-2004 - 2:49pm
"those who are outraged over this movie screaming that its not a documentary and tarnishes the good name of real docs are just crybabies cuz its too close for comfort to the truth"

That would be incorrect. If it WAS the truth, WAS factual, that would be fine whether I like the movie or not. But just like in "Roger and Me" and to a greater degree in "Bowling for Columbine", it's not "factual". Moore lies, fabricates, and unappologetically misrepresents the "facts", all in the publicized guise of "documentary".

Being "close to the truth" isn't good enough for a "documentary", where objective facts are supposed to be the stock in trade. That isn't the case in Moore movies, even those which are supposed to be documentaries.


~mark~

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Registered: 06-24-2004
Thu, 06-24-2004 - 3:17pm
I have not and WILL NOT see this movie. I am ashamed that an american wrote it. I think he is spitting in the face of all the men and women that are fighting for HIS right to write this kind of crap.

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