Edwards = Bush

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Thu, 07-08-2004 - 9:17pm
They have no difference in big issues.

Inside group now is smiling. They got all cadidates, both in Rep. and Demo camp, all their puppets. Go play the election, you people, enjoy "democracy". The end is already in the hand of inside group.

Three musketeers (originally posted in February this year)

There were two big events in House in Bush presidency. One was passing through of the Bill of Patriot Act and other one is the Bill of Authorizing the use of armed force against Iraq. These two bills seriously eroding the civil rights of US citizens and their interest but largely benefit the inside group. They even activated anthrax attack(for Patriot Act) and DC sniper shooting (for the bill to authorize Iraq war power) to push through the two bills. After the bills passed successfully, the media published pictures to show that it was supported by two parties. The picture showed Bush was in the center, with Lieberman, Edwards, Gephardt came beside him. Like three musketeers stood with the king. Kerry, though being gang of four, even not qualified to be in the picture. They are the hard core of inside group followers.

Edwards has another character. He works covertly like Wesley Clark and Arnold Schwarzinneger. When Clark suddenly joined campaign, he has a clean vote history because he has never been a politician. Arnold at first denied he would be candidate in California recall, only at last minute announced involvement. Same tactic like Clark. Arnold also ducked all candidates debate. Edwards worked in same way. Try not to be in focus, avoid conflict. At this point, he and Clark and Arnold could be viewed as three musketeers from Feds.

Howard Dean was the target of insider group because his anti-war stand. They manipulated election, media and poll to pull Dean down. The resiganation of Dean's campaign manager gave him a last hit. When they created a situation that Dean was hopeless, why they are so eager want Dean announceing his out? It might be paving way for Edwards.

When they forced Dean to pull out, Kerry and Edwards became major competetors. They could make another surprise in Super Tuesday's primary. (Though this time they didn't. Otherwise it would be too evident the election was manipulated.)

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Thu, 07-08-2004 - 10:12pm
"They have no difference in big issues."

These two are like night and day! Edwards has the 4th most liberal voting record. He almost makes the Clintons look like Republicans. (Kerry has the #1 most liberal voting record.) President Bush is of course very conservative on issues. Simply vote for the candidate you agree with on the issues.

Don't know if you're a conservative or a liberal? I'll share this summary I saw with you:

You're a liberal if...

You're against capital punishment, but for abortion on demand.

You believe that guns in the hands of innocent, law-abiding citizens are more of a threat than nuclear weapons in the hands of the Red Chinese.

You believe that the same public school teacher that couldn't teach your child to read is qualified to teach your child about sex.

You believe gender roles are artificial but being gay is natural.

You believe businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.

You believe that hunters don't care about nature, but those who never leave the city do.

You believe taxes are too low but ATM fees are too high.

You believe trial lawyers are selfless heroes and doctors are overpaid.

You believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas aren't.

You believe that AIDS is spread by lack of funding.

You believe conservatives are racist, but that minorities couldn't make it without your help (quite a racist idea).

You believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.

You believe the NRA is bad because they stand up for certain parts of the Constitution, but the ACLU is good because they stand up for certain parts of the Constitution.

You believe that only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge.

Editing to add: You're a liberal if you believe the U.N. actually cares about the U.S., and that the U.N. knows what's best for us, even more than our own government and citizens do.






Edited 7/9/2004 9:09 am ET ET by sheila3xblessed

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Fri, 07-09-2004 - 8:37am
Ah, the inevitable conspiracy-theory tripe rears it's head. Try actually looking at the platforms/issues the various candidates are running on. There's no difference in big issues there? Try looking at things like abortion, tax cuts, things of that nature. If you can't see the differences it's only because you refuse to look for them.


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Fri, 07-09-2004 - 11:17am

"There were two big events in House in Bush presidency. One was passing through of the Bill of Patriot Act and other one is the Bill of Authorizing the use of armed force against Iraq. These two bills seriously eroding the civil rights of US citizens and their interest but largely benefit the inside group. They even activated anthrax attack(for Patriot Act) and DC sniper shooting (for the bill to authorize Iraq war power) to push through the two bills. After the bills passed successfully, the media published pictures to show that it was supported by two parties. The picture showed Bush was in the center, with Lieberman, Edwards, Gephardt came beside him. Like three musketeers stood with the king. Kerry, though being gang of four, even not qualified to be in the picture. They are the hard core of inside group followers."


I am not sure that I disagree with this point.

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Fri, 07-09-2004 - 12:09pm
*that* was really hateful, and I refuse to respond with a list about conservatives, simply because it is demeaning and puts down valid points of view, just as this does.

Ones that I will not let pass without comment...

>>You believe gender roles are artificial but being gay is natural.

>>You believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.<<

These two are somewhat related. I've lived it and dealt with it for over 40 years. I've earned respect... having to stay in a closet to do so until my sub-conscience cried "enough!" This shows little compassion, little understanding, and in my opinion is bigoted.

>>You believe that the same public school teacher that couldn't teach your child to read is qualified to teach your child about sex.<<

Yes I believe we should teach our children about sexuality in schools. And I think we should strive to vastly improve our education, and not with more testing as this administration has imposed. We need more teachers, smaller class size, and more individualised attention. And that means spending less on things that go boom in favour of our most precious resource... our children.

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Fri, 07-09-2004 - 12:46pm

Yes, you need to.

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Fri, 07-09-2004 - 1:14pm

 


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Fri, 07-09-2004 - 1:19pm
Have you had the opportunity to view some of kathaksung previous posts? They include some very, ....ummmm, interesting theories. And "interesting" is the nicest word to describe them. Other less nice words that come to mind are "farfetched", "whacko" and "weird"! And the poster never seems to follow up on her/his original post.

It's hard to take somebody seriously under those circumstances, even if they post serially. I would guess that Libraone knows/remembers that.

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Fri, 07-09-2004 - 1:54pm

OK, I can see your point and I've never seen them post before so I guess I got suckered.

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Fri, 07-09-2004 - 4:58pm
Fair enough!

I have a couple of theories about why Congress, including Kerry and Edwards, overwhelmingly rolled over and played dead when it came to debating the issue of giving so much power to Bush. One, they'd all been scared silly by the 9/11 attacks and were attempting to present a united front to other nations. Two is not as generous and it's more cynical-they needn't take responsibility for whatever went wrong if Bush assumed the point position.

There may have been others who were troubled by the hustle of the administration, but I only know of one member of the House of Representatives who stood up and voiced his concern that there wasn't adequate proof to make the case for going to war with Iraq. He said that if Congress did not debate the issue, they were abdicating their constitutional responsibilities. Ironically enough, he is, , a Republican from Texas named Ron Paul.

I figure that Kerry and Edwards are the lesser of two evils but it would be wonderful to have more choices in making the tough decision about who should head the sole remaining super power on this earth.

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