Russian children hostage

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Registered: 08-29-2004
Russian children hostage
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Wed, 09-01-2004 - 1:55pm
I have looked at many different boards, on many different sites on this and I am disturbed by the fact most people seem to be embracing hate. On one site people were advocating extermination of all musilims(sp?). Is any one else disturbed by this?

I think we can all agree that we want the children and other to come out of that school safely. Why don't we each spend a few minutes in prayer to our respective God or gods for the safety of these people and the sanity of our race. I find it so hard to understand anyone advocating the complete extermination of a religion, or group of people. We may not be able to change some of those attitudes, but we can sure as hell try. Compassion is indiginous to all isn't it?

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Registered: 07-02-2004
Sun, 09-05-2004 - 2:19pm
Wow, I was away a day and look at all the posts.

The problem with these people is that they will stop at nothing to make their point. It is a new breed of war...a new way of fighting that is almost impossible to combat. They have no reguard for us as human beings...they see us as evil and they are comended by their "higher power" in their eyes for distroying us. You cannot fight a person or group of people that are so ruthless. They are hero's to their cause and to their believed "higher power", even more so if they sacrifice themselves.

I hope and pray that we will learn a way to help to combat this in the future but I truely don't know how that is possible to fight it when there is no battle ground "front", rules or boundaries to declair.

My thoughts and prayers are with them as well and my children have drawn pictures to the victims and want to send allowance money to help. That is a small silver lining...new generations are learning the terrible tragety in this and pouring out their fears and compassion that keeps us all human. My children want to get involved and it may help all our kids to understand and the Russian victims to feel comfort in that the world is pulling for them.

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Registered: 07-02-2004
Sun, 09-05-2004 - 2:31pm
Now....before I get posts about this, let me correct and clear up one thing. I am not lumping all Muslims as a group. I know that is not the case, I am singling out the groups that purpectuate hate and use such terristic force against other human beings.

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Registered: 03-23-2003
Sun, 09-05-2004 - 2:37pm

In order to have an understanding of the history between Russia & Chechnya, here is a good timeline:


http://www.infoplease.com/spot/chechnyatime1.html


And a couple of


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Registered: 06-02-2004
Sun, 09-05-2004 - 2:38pm
>>>Now....before I get posts about this, let me correct and clear up one thing. I am not lumping all Muslims as a group<<

I should hope not, just as you wouldn't lump all christians into one group based on the actions of christian terrorists. Terrorism is an evil that no religion supports, and as muslim groups keep pointing out over and over to deaf ears:

http://www.islamfortoday.com/terrorism.htm

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Registered: 07-02-2004
Sun, 09-05-2004 - 3:09pm
I do agree with your statement. We must understand the history but is it also safe to say that the use of children on any front in inexcusable and the terristic way of fighting that we are seeing more and more of is horrific, inhuman and the evens transpiring over this event with children brings it to a level that is very hard to fight.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Sun, 09-05-2004 - 3:33pm
What I meant was I doubt they are going to get much help from outside sources especially in this country...apparently the anger with Muslims after 9/11 is to deep seeded and I don't see our government or other religious denominations doing anything to change that misconception. For that I am sorry.
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Registered: 08-29-2004
Mon, 09-06-2004 - 12:03am
Does anyone see a pattern here? I do and thank God it is a positive pattern.

1. We all agree that it was a horrible thing.

2. We are trying to talk about it with out tearing each other apart. Yes, some things have seemed harsh, yet in spite of it we are trying.

3. We all want to do something positive. We are concerned and want to help those children, each other and the rest of the world before it slides into a total tale spin of hate.

4. We have all agreed that hate is wrong.

Has anyone else noticed similar things in these posts?

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Registered: 08-29-2004
Mon, 09-06-2004 - 12:27am
Alfreda,

I am sorry that you and your husband have been on the receiving end of hate and maliciousness. There is no reason for it. If it helps, read through the posts again, there are some who not attacking.

When I worked as a reporter, all muslims I talked to after 9/11 impressed me as kind decent people who were no different than me or anyone else I have ever meet. The truth is good people and bad people and everyone in various spots in the middle are in every religion, race, gender. However the good news is there has always been and will always be kind, peace loving people in the world.

I don't think you or Islam are at fault. I am a christian and I am not responsible for the nuts who claim to be christians and blow up abortion clinics killing every one in it. It is the same with muslims. I can't hold you and your religion gulity for extremists.

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Registered: 04-16-2003
Mon, 09-06-2004 - 12:45pm
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I want to add another reason they don't see it. They don't see it because their mental catagories won't allow them to see beyond their preconceived ideas, because then they might have to change there preconceived ideas. In other words they don't want to see.

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Registered: 04-16-2003
Mon, 09-06-2004 - 12:48pm
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Did it ever occur to you that they may think the same of us?

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