Octomom is a disgrace

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Registered: 04-22-2008
Octomom is a disgrace
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Tue, 02-17-2009 - 11:12am
The more I see this pig on TV the more disgusted I get! At first, the story of the 8 babies was a "feel-good" story on the news and all the Dr.s were shown with huge smiles, & then the truth began to come out. She was unwed, on welfare & disability, already had 6 other kids and she lives in a 3 room apartment and her mother cares for the kids. The doctors obviously had no thoughts for their Hippocratic oaths. All they could see were $$ signs. They had no concern for the quality of life that these children would have in the future. And now, the state of CA (already in the hole for what? 46 billion) has to pay MORE money to this selfish, self serving piece of crap? I'm sorry, but animals have litters of 8, not humans. Isn't this almost like "hoarding" animals? Doesn't the ASPCA usually come and take the animals and put them up for adoption? Wheres the army to come and take some of these kids so that they can be put up for adoption and maybe have a REAL home with 2 parents who LOVE them for themselves and not for how many welfare checks they mean? She's a disgusting pig and someone needs to shoot the b@*&% and put us all out of our misery.

Laurie

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iVillage Member
Registered: 05-23-2008
Tue, 02-17-2009 - 5:59pm

The doctor that impregnanted her with eight babies, has impregnanted a forty nine year old woman with four babies.

iVillage Member
Registered: 05-23-2008
Tue, 02-17-2009 - 6:05pm
You have a point, the system is out of wack.
iVillage Member
Registered: 01-22-2009
Tue, 02-17-2009 - 7:07pm

~The doctor that impregnanted her with eight babies~


Just to clarify, it was six (two of them split into twins afterwards).


~Why the authorities don't take those children away from her is beyond belief.~


Possibly they will.

iVillage Member
Registered: 01-28-2009
Wed, 02-18-2009 - 10:57am

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I agree with you there.

....but not here.
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Perhaps this attitude explains why the woman and those associated with her are getting so many graphic death threats.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-octuplets15-2009feb15,0,4935931.story

Although I think she may have paid for the IVF herself...I believe a large part of the problem rests with the place who implanted the embryos in the first place. I believe these places should be more carefully regulated....that a background check should be conducted before anyone gets implanted through IVF (it's done for those adopting a child, I think it should be done for this too) and I don't think they should have implanted her with so many embryos (6 or 8.....That's too many).

At any rate, I'm concerned for the welfare of the children/babies in this case.

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Registered: 04-05-2002
Wed, 02-18-2009 - 11:46am

"I believe a large part of the problem rests with the place who implanted the embryos in the first place. I believe these places should be more carefully regulated"


I agree. I hope this is being looked at more closely.


"that a background check should be conducted before anyone gets implanted through IVF (it's done for those adopting a child, I think it should be done for this too) "


This is an interesting point and I'm torn on it.






iVillage Member
Registered: 01-22-2009
Wed, 02-18-2009 - 12:06pm

~and I don't think they should have implanted her with so many embryos (6 or 8.....That's too many)~


Me, too.


~At any rate, I'm concerned for the welfare of the children/babies in this case.~


Me, too.

iVillage Member
Registered: 01-28-2009
Wed, 02-18-2009 - 12:59pm

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I understand why you might be torn...but there would have to be strict requirements as what makes a person unsuitable or not (and this would be the same rules across the board)....As we can see from this instance, the woman already had 6 children and although she managed to scrape the money together, she could not afford to even take care of the children she had.

I understand that IVF may be a godsend to those who may not be able to conceive naturally and want a natural child (or a reasonable number of children - I know....what's reasonable) of their own....but....

I suppose if the person already had a litter like this woman did, but it is proven that they can afford this litter and the children already in existence are well taken care of then that would be a different story (background checks and counselling should be able to determine that). But I do think that the places doing this should bear some responsibility for the well-being of the children they will be creating through this process. I mean, I had to jump through hoops just to adopt a cat from the Humane Society for crying out loud. These places are bringing human beings into the world.

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Registered: 01-28-2009
Wed, 02-18-2009 - 1:10pm

I can see both sides of the issue re problems....Already, there's discrimination though because people have to have quite a bit of money in order to do this (and that eliminates some people right off the bat). In essence, it's already (for the most part) eliminating people that don't have a huge sum of money saved up and therefore, only the fairly well-off can avail themselves to the technology. In some cases, people will go broke trying this.

Anyway, having a lot of disposable cash on hand isn't the only (or even the best) criteria to judge who would make a suitable parent. As we can see, the desire to have a child isn't always altruistic....Sometimes it's about ego.

Also, I think there's a difference between sustaining life already in existence and creating a whole new one through modern technology conducted by third parties who would have no stake (or legal obligation) to that life once the implantation takes place. At least in the case of a biological Dad, one can go try and after them legally if support is needed.




Edited 2/18/2009 1:11 pm ET by moxysuvous
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Registered: 01-22-2009
Wed, 02-18-2009 - 1:54pm

~I can see both sides of the issue re problems....~


So can I.

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-30-2002
Wed, 02-18-2009 - 2:26pm

At any given time, between credit lines and credit cards I could walk out here today and have about $75K at my fingertips. That does not, however, determine my longterm ability to repay that debt and raise a child. My partner has a lifelong , chronic illness. At anytime, if his medication should stop working, he could be rendered incapable of supporting his child. I have a disability. At anytime, I could be rendered incapable of taking care of our child. We did not have to use fertility methods to get pregnant, but for evaluation purposes ,we aren't highly qualified parental candidates, EXCEPT for the fact that I have assets. I personally, have no family to offer back up support. My parents are elderly and dying, my sibs live in other states. He does have family, but they don't really like me. I just don't see where it becomes a medical Drs. responsibility to determine the qualifications, beyond medical,



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