Joe the Plumber calls gays 'queer'

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Registered: 03-23-2003
Joe the Plumber calls gays 'queer'
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Thu, 05-07-2009 - 12:54pm
Joe the Plumber calls gays 'queer'
http://www.seattlepi.com/national/1110ap_us_joe_the_plumber.html

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FILE - In this Oct. 30, 2008 file photo, Samuel "Joe The Plumber" Wurzelbacher speaks at a rally for Republican presidential candidate Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz. at a Town Square Stop in Washington Park in Sandusky, Ohio. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster, File)

NEW YORK -- Samuel Wurzelbacher, the Ohio man hailed as "Joe the Plumber" by Republican John McCain's presidential campaign last year, said he believes gays are "queer" and said he won't allow them near his children.


Nevertheless, Wurzelbacher said the decision about whether to allow same-sex couples to marry should be left to states.


"People don't understand the dictionary - it's called queer," Wurzelbacher told Christianity Today in an interview published this week. "Queer means strange and unusual. It's not like a slur, like you would call a white person a honky or something like that. You know, God is pretty explicit in what we're supposed to do - what man and woman are for."


He added, "I've had some friends that are actually homosexual. And, I mean, they know where I stand, and they know that I wouldn't have them anywhere near my children. But at the same time, they're people, and they're going to do their thing."


Joe Solmonese, president of the Human Rights Campaign, a national gay rights organization based in Washington, dismissed Wurzelbacher's comments.


"It would matter if Joe the Plumber mattered," Solmonese said. "One thing among many things we learned in the 2008 campaign is that he doesn't." (me:  AMEN!  Why is anyone even listening to him anymore?)


  Remainder of story at link above.

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Community Leader
Registered: 04-05-2002
Sat, 05-09-2009 - 11:40am
So you're more upset about the choice of the word in the title than in the hateful words that Joe the Plumber said? It seems everyone else is more upset with what he's said than the one word taken out of his speech and used in the title.










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Registered: 08-30-2002
Sat, 05-09-2009 - 12:14pm

***Not every gay person embraces the word "queer" and not every African American person embraces the word "n***.



Community Leader
Registered: 04-05-2002
Sat, 05-09-2009 - 12:43pm

I agree about the b* word, too. And, I don't think that, just because some women/girls choose to use it, it becomes acceptable for a man to call me one and then go on a sexist rant, just because some women do. In that case, it would surprise me, just as in this case, that someone would have more problems with the women using the word, than with the man who used that word and was sexually harassing.






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Registered: 01-22-2009
Sat, 05-09-2009 - 1:01pm

Just to mention, sometimes it's that people don't want their kids "exposed" to us (finding out that exists), rather than that they don't trust us.

Community Leader
Registered: 04-05-2002
Sun, 05-10-2009 - 2:41pm
Thanks for explaining that. I'm not exposed to it, and can't imagine what goes through people's minds. Although come to think of it, I have heard people say that it shouldn't be mentioned in school because it might make children consider the option.





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Registered: 04-20-2009
Sun, 05-10-2009 - 3:53pm

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I think you need to go back to the beginning of my posts and re-read them. Never once did I say I was "upset" about anything. I merely questioned why others were upset with the word "queer" and found it offensive when many gays use it to reference themselves. I never once advocated anything that Joe said nor did I ever say I agreed with him. Please don't assume to know what upsets me compared to what upsets others. Please don't twist what I have said to suit your own agenda. It's quite offensive.

iVillage Member
Registered: 02-05-2009
Sun, 05-10-2009 - 7:21pm

"I merely questioned why others were upset with the word "queer" and found it offensive when many gays use it to reference themselves."


"Please don't assume to know what upsets me compared to what upsets others."


You do the same, ok?


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Community Leader
Registered: 04-05-2002
Sun, 05-10-2009 - 7:57pm
Exactly, especially after I explicitly said people were bothered by what he said more than the title.










Community Leader
Registered: 04-05-2002
Sun, 05-10-2009 - 8:06pm

I'll rephrase it and avoid using the word "upset."






iVillage Member
Registered: 01-22-2009
Mon, 05-11-2009 - 1:21am

~Never once did I say I was "upset" about anything.~


Maybe this is a good time to note that you've consistently been framing the situation re: Joe saying "queer"