What's With People?

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Registered: 04-11-2009
What's With People?
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Sat, 05-09-2009 - 1:53am

There was a thread on here about a man in Texas who had called 911 to report that the house next door was being robbed.  The man left his home despite the protestations of the 911 operator that he stay put in the safety of his home.  He went out and shot and killed the robbers as they were leaving the scene of the crime.  The vigilante was cleared of all charges because Texas has a law that basically sends the message, "shoot first, ask questions later."  Well, a Texas couple shot four people, two were children.  If the child dies, should they be charged with manslaughter or homocide or should they walk, because of Texas' special law?


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30650051


Couple accused of shooting 4, including 2 kids


Texas authorities say victims were off-roading when they were fired upon

Off Road Shooting


Gale and Sheila Muhs, seen here in booking photos, are accused of shooting four people, including two children


Fri., May 8, 2009


HOUSTON - A couple has been accused of opening fire and wounding four people — including a 7-year-old boy and a 5-year-old girl — who they mistakenly thought were trespassing on their property.


The victims, who were off-roading near a residential area about 40 miles northeast of Houston, were struck with shotgun pellets late Thursday after stopping their vehicles near the Trinity River so the children could go to the bathroom, said Liberty County Chief Deputy Ken DeFoor.


Police said resident Sheila Muhs, 45, fired once with a 12-gauge shotgun, then handed it to her husband, Gayle Muhs, also 45. DeFoor said Sheila Muhs called 911 and told the dispatcher, "They're out here tearing up the levee, so I shot them."


The Muhs have been charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and remained in jail Friday. The Muhs don't have an attorney yet to comment on their case, DeFoor said.


Donald Coffey Jr., the 7-year-old boy, was shot in the head and was in critical condition Friday. Patrick Cammack, a friend of the boy's father who was driving in a separate vehicle, also was shot in the head and in critical condition.


Donald Coffey Sr., 36, had a pellet wound in his right shoulder. His daughter, 5-year-old Destiny, was shot in the elbow but was in good condition.


After the shootings, Coffey's wife, who also was riding in the SUV, drove the vehicle to a nearby fire station, where the victims were taken by helicopter to a hospital. The right rear window of the SUV had been shattered, and pellet marks covered the side of the vehicle, DeFoor said.


The victims said Coffey and Cammack took a county road to a residential levee in the Westlake subdivision near the Trinity River.


According to an 11-year-old boy who was also with the off-roading group, they did not stop on the levee but by the side of the road, DeFoor said.


Shortly afterward, DeFoor said, the shots were fired from about 40 yards away. DeFoor said the victims were unarmed.


"The levee is not private property, it belongs to the subdivision," said DeFoor. "Even if they were on the levee, it's not a shootable offense. It's ludicrous to shoot someone for going to the bathroom on the side of the road.">>>


http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/stories/012008dnmetfightingback.6a8cbd.html


'Castle law' arms Texas homeowners with right to shoot
 

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Registered: 04-11-2009
Mon, 05-11-2009 - 12:43pm
That isn't what I said or meant. I think that Bush/Cheney felt the need to go after potential future threats because that is how it would be handled on a much lesser scale in their states (i.e., nobody is there to protect us, therefore, we have to do it ourselves if we think that there might be a future potential threat). They looked at Saddam as a future potential threat that had to be eradicated even though Saddam wasn't threatening the USA at the time. That would be just like the guy that shot somebody who had a gun and who was outside of the house rather than call 911 and find a safe place to hide until help arrived. It was preventive (not exactly pre-emptive) and assumed that future potential harm could come and that waiting on authorities to provide assistance wasn't the prudent option. If I was 20 miles from the nearest police, I might have shot a warning shot to indicate to the potential bad guy that I would be willing to defend myself. If the potential bad guy shot back, I would defend myself. Since we can usually, though not always, get a police cruiser here in 5 minutes or less, I am less likely to take such action.

 

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Registered: 03-23-2003
Mon, 05-11-2009 - 1:02pm

Same here.


iVillage Member
Registered: 03-23-2003
Mon, 05-11-2009 - 1:07pm

They're both only 45 yrs. old? They look much, much


iVillage Member
Registered: 02-05-2009
Mon, 05-11-2009 - 8:10pm

Even slightly blaming the states those a-holes lived in for the Iraq war is ridiculous.


Absolutely ridiculous.


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Registered: 04-11-2009
Mon, 05-11-2009 - 8:33pm
That is not what I am saying. I am saying that the mindset of attacking to prevent an potential future attack isn't prevalent all over the county and it certainly isn't supported by law (like the Texas "castle" law) in states all over the country. I think that Bush and Cheney had that mindset - attack to prevent a potential future attack. That is how they viewed it.

 

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Registered: 02-05-2009
Mon, 05-11-2009 - 10:31pm

I am saying that the mindset of attacking to prevent an potential future attack isn't prevalent all over the county and it certainly isn't supported by law (like the Texas "castle" law) in states all over the country.

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Registered: 04-20-2009
Mon, 05-11-2009 - 10:43pm

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I could be wrong...but I am probably not. Both of them look as if they have had a hard life hooked on meth.

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Registered: 02-05-2009
Mon, 05-11-2009 - 10:48pm

Same here.

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Registered: 02-05-2009
Mon, 05-11-2009 - 11:24pm

Both of them look as if they have had a hard life hooked on meth.


I bet you're right.


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Registered: 03-18-2000
Tue, 05-12-2009 - 8:36am

"...look as if they have had a hard life hooked on meth."


Could very well be.


As Nwtreehugger posted......


"It's their inner ugliness showing through"

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