SUV's more green than mass transit?
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| Mon, 06-08-2009 - 9:11pm |
Many environmentalists, in particular liberal environmentalists seem to believe in mass transit as the solution to our pollution problem.
Sometimes, I as a conservative environmentalist find it very amusing. The following story gave me a bit of a chuckle. Other conservatives may enjoy it. Liberals may not enjoy the story quite as much.
Story at - http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.243153c6a091a3b942a75077729e8c92.c51&show_article=1
Think twice about 'green' transport, say scientists
You worry a lot about the environment and do everything you can to reduce your carbon footprint -- the emissions of greenhouse gases that drive dangerous climate change.
So you always prefer to take the train or the bus rather than a plane, and avoid using a car whenever you can, faithful to the belief that this inflicts less harm to the planet.
Well, there could be a nasty surprise in store for you, for taking public transport may not be as green as you automatically think, says a new US study.
Its authors point out an array of factors that are often unknown to the public.
These are hidden or displaced emissions that ramp up the simple "tailpipe" tally, which is based on how much carbon is spewed out by the fossil fuels used to make a trip.
Environmental engineers Mikhail Chester and Arpad Horvath at the University of California at Davis say that when these costs are included, a more complex and challenging picture emerges.
In some circumstances, for instance, it could be more eco-friendly to drive into a city -- even in an SUV, the bete noire of green groups -- rather than take a suburban train. It depends on seat occupancy and the underlying carbon cost of the mode of transport.
"We are encouraging people to look at not the average ranking of modes, because there is a different basket of configurations that determine the outcome," Chester told AFP in a phone interview.
"There's no overall solution that's the same all the time."
The pair give an example of how the use of oil, gas or coal to generate electricity to power trains can skew the picture.
Boston has a metro system with high energy efficiency. The trouble is, 82 percent of the energy to drive it comes from dirty fossil fuels.
By comparison, San Francisco's local railway is less energy-efficient than Boston's. But it turns out to be rather greener, as only 49 percent of the electricity is derived from fossils.
The paper points out that the "tailpipe" quotient does not include emissions that come from building transport infrastructure -- railways, airport terminals, roads and so on -- nor the emissions that come from maintaining this infrastructure over its operational lifetime.
These often-unacknowledged factors add substantially to the global-warming burden.
In fact, they add 63 percent to the "tailpipe" emissions of a car, 31 percent to those of a plane, and 55 percent to those of a train.
And another big variable that may be overlooked in green thinking is seat occupancy.
A saloon (sedan) car or even an 4x4 that is fully occupied may be responsible for less greenhouse gas per kilometer travelled per person than a suburban train that is a quarter full, the researchers calculate.
"Government policy has historically relied on energy and emission analysis of automobiles, buses, trains and aircraft at their tailpipe, ignoring vehicle production and maintenance, infrastructure provision and fuel production requirements to support these modes," they say.
So getting a complete view of the ultimate environmental cost of the type of transport, over its entire lifespan, should help decision-makers to make smarter investments.
For travelling distances up to, say, 1,000 kilometres (600 miles), "we can ask questions as to whether it's better to invest in a long-distance railway, improving the air corridor or boosting car occupancy," said Chester.
The paper appears in Environmental Research Letters, a publication of Britain's Institute of Physics.
The calculations are based on US technology and lifestyles.
It used 2005 models of the Toyota Camry saloon, Chevrolet Trailblazer SUV and Ford F-150 to calibrate automobile performance; the light transit systems in the San Francisco Bay Area and Boston as the models for the metro and commuter lines; and the Embraer 145, Boeing 737 and Boeing 747 as the benchmarks for short-, medium- and long-haul aircraft.

Here's the critical passage:
"A saloon (sedan) car or EVEN an 4x4 that is fully occupied may be responsible for less greenhouse gas per kilometer travelled per person than a suburban train that is a quarter full, the researchers calculate. "
Emphasis is on occupancy. There are mighty few times when I see an SUV fully occupied. All too often there is one occupant--the driver.
Jabberwocka
I guess a liberal like yourself would find a mass transit system running empty to be green. Personally, I don't see how, but I'll wait and read your reply. Please tell me how an empty bus or train (one with drivers, conductors, motormen, and support staff to maintain and control the service but with no passengers) is better than an SUV parked in a driveway and not running with respect to CO2 creation. This situation happens often when a schedule is made and nobody is using the transit system.
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Exactly. Or if those people in the full SUV were to get out of their SUV and hop on public transportation, that would be the greenest solution.
I passed by 3 school buses on the way to work this morning. Since school is out for the summer, apparently these are hauling kids to summer school. Each bus had a total of no more than 3 or 4 kids. What an utter waste of energy.
Then again, city buses here are never even half full. Atlanta encompasses such a huge area that riding buses is impractical for most people. But the buses are still there, running non-stop
I can't remember the last time I saw an SUV filled to capacity...but I can remember quite clearly many trips downtown on the bus where I stood the entire way because the bus was filled to capacity.
ITA.
There's no argument. I even said specifically: "Emphasis is on occupancy." Mass transit isn't efficient unless masses use the train/subway/bus/.
That said, rarely have I seen an "empty" bus here in Albuquerque and the RailRunner to Santa Fe is usually packed. I also frequently see Escalades, Tahoes, and the like with a single occupant consisting of the driver.
Jabberwocka
It's definitely a poorly written article.
I thought it was obvious that it depends on the form of transport, the fuel, the occupancy, etc..