Lashing Out at Critic for Nazi Remark

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Lashing Out at Critic for Nazi Remark
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Wed, 08-19-2009 - 11:38am

You go Barney!!!


Rep Barney Frank SLAMS Women Comparing Obama To Hitler At Town Hall


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Barney Frank Lashes Out at Critic for Nazi Remark
"On what planet do you spend most of your time?" Frank retorted

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/NATL-Barney-Frank-Lashes-Out-at-Naz-On-What-Planet-Do-You-Spend-Most-Your-Time--53684352.html











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Rep. Barney Frank, drawing jeers and cheers at a fiery town hall debate, fired back at critics of President Obama's health care reform plan and launched into a sharp-tongued tirade against a vocal detractor who compared the plan to "Nazi policy."


"On what planet do you spend most of your time?" Frank retorted.


"You stand there with a picture of the president defaced to look like Hitler and compare the effort to increase health care to the Nazis," Frank fumed. "Trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table. I have no interest in doing it"


Frank fielded questions on topics from health care reform to federal bank bailouts and didn't back down from critics who opposed overhauling the health care system during a fiery town hall in Dartmouth, Mass., on Tuesday night that drew roughly 500 people and was among one of the most heated yet. 



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Wed, 08-19-2009 - 12:31pm

There's a clip around somewhere with FOX news criticizing Frank for "talking down to the concerned citizens" at that town hall meeting.

 


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Wed, 08-19-2009 - 1:03pm
Of course they did. Nothing like taking things out of context to make someone look bad. Fox must try to make the lunatics appear sane at all costs.
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Wed, 08-19-2009 - 1:31pm
I first saw the clip on TV this morning. While searching for it online I came across the Faux version. It's no wonder 'some' have such a twisted version of the 'news'/opinion.
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Wed, 08-19-2009 - 1:34pm

 


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Wed, 08-19-2009 - 1:49pm
I didn't use to have such a low opinion of FOX.

 


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Wed, 08-19-2009 - 3:32pm
If I had a nickel for every time a liberal compared Bush to Hitler, I'd be able to pay off our national debt and still be the richest person in the world.
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Wed, 08-19-2009 - 4:04pm

Was that last post of yours a bit "catty"?


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Wed, 08-19-2009 - 5:19pm

I certainly compared Bush to Hitler on these boards. And STILL see little to choose between Bush's power-tripping along with his invasion of a nation which presented no viable threat to us; and similar actions by Adolph Hitler.

But......never made up a poster with a caricature of Bush/Hitler and took it into a public forum. Never harangued a public official with questions about "Nazi" policies.

The woman who asked Frank "Why do you continue to support a Nazi policy as Obama has?" doesn't know the meaning of fascism and its focus on authoritarian approaches to creating policy. By definition, in a fascist regime, she WOULD NOT HAVE DARED to say what she did at the townhall meeting.

Moreover, she phrased her inquiry in the same manner as the old chestnut "Have you stopped beating your wife?" I wonder. Did Fox perhaps feed her the question? Would have made nifty copy for them and they do have a way of using the same type of inflammatory and misleading "questioning".

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Wed, 08-19-2009 - 8:19pm
All these town hall meetings show how easily people can be manipulated--believing that providing health care for its citizens would make the US like Nazi Germany. We always wonder how easily the average German citizen could be misled under the Nazis. It's obviously very easy to mislead people into thinking ludricrous ideas.










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Thu, 08-20-2009 - 9:27am

"doesn't know the meaning of fascism and its focus on authoritarian approaches to creating policy. By definition, in a fascist regime, she WOULD NOT HAVE DARED to say what she did at the townhall meeting."


Exactly.


The following segment from....


America's Neo_Fascism


http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/19/americas_neo_fascism/


>"My epiphany was :"Wow! There is a real American Neo-Fascist Movement abroad."


My disbelief came on top of the epiphany about the woman yesterday who was comparing Obama to Hitler. She has not a semester of history in her brain. That's why Barney said she was like arguing with a coffee table. Thats what I feel sometimes about some of our correspondents. Here's some real history, by the twentieth century's last great living historian Eric Hobsbwam.

"Fascism was triumphantly anti-liberal. It also provided the proof that man can, without difficulty, combine crack-brained beliefs about the world with a confident mastery of contemporary high technology.... Nevertheless, the combination of conservative values, the techniques of mass democracy, and an innovative ideology of irrationalist savagery, essentially centered in nationalism, must be explained.... The strong commitment of the Left, from the liberal onwards, to anti-war movements, the huge popular revulsion against the mass killings of the First World War, led many to underestimate the emergence of a relatively small, but absolutely numerous, minority for whom uniform and discipline, sacrifice-of self and others- and blood arms and power were what made masculine life worth living. These Rambos of their time were natural recruits for the Radical Right."


The rise of Hitler was on the back of a lot of alienated lower middle class thugs, known as the Brownshirts. In 1930 Germany they made up maybe 12% of the population. These guys strutting around Obama events with Semi Automatics are America's Brownshirts. They need to be opposed right now. In Germany the "good people" didn't oppose the brownshirts in 1930 when they were a real minority. There are a lot of scared American out there--they've lost their 401 K Plans and they don't know who to blame. They've been told by Limbaugh since the days of Ronald Reagan that "the government was the problem". Now they are freaked out. They're in the Interregnum--"The old is dying and the new cannot be born"--and Fascist solutions (throw all the immigrants out and build up the military to Kick Iran's butt) may be appealing. So that is exactly the Propaganda War that is transpiring right now.



However, My guess is that David Axelrod and Rahm Emmanuel have as good a polling operation as anyone in the country and they know that the independents don't want to be identified with the birthers or the Lyndon LaRouche "Obama as Hitler" crowd. These guys totting guns are a fringe element and the sooner we realize that elections have consequences, that the majority rules and the birthers and fascists can "love it or leave it" (as the 60's statement went), the better for everyone."<


 


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