Lashing Out at Critic for Nazi Remark

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Wed, 08-19-2009 - 11:38am

You go Barney!!!


Rep Barney Frank SLAMS Women Comparing Obama To Hitler At Town Hall


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWwyjwmYMEs


 


Barney Frank Lashes Out at Critic for Nazi Remark
"On what planet do you spend most of your time?" Frank retorted

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/NATL-Barney-Frank-Lashes-Out-at-Naz-On-What-Planet-Do-You-Spend-Most-Your-Time--53684352.html











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Rep. Barney Frank, drawing jeers and cheers at a fiery town hall debate, fired back at critics of President Obama's health care reform plan and launched into a sharp-tongued tirade against a vocal detractor who compared the plan to "Nazi policy."


"On what planet do you spend most of your time?" Frank retorted.


"You stand there with a picture of the president defaced to look like Hitler and compare the effort to increase health care to the Nazis," Frank fumed. "Trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table. I have no interest in doing it"


Frank fielded questions on topics from health care reform to federal bank bailouts and didn't back down from critics who opposed overhauling the health care system during a fiery town hall in Dartmouth, Mass., on Tuesday night that drew roughly 500 people and was among one of the most heated yet. 



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Thu, 08-20-2009 - 11:35am

Tell me it isn't so!

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Thu, 08-20-2009 - 11:42am

Like you, I certainly found more of a comparison to Bush's administration and Hitler than Obama and Hitler. I can't see any correlations between Hitler and Obama at all. I've never felt more like our country was close to fascism than when Bush was in office.


I guess some of the fools think that healthcare reform is somehow connected with nationalist socialism. However, in Nazi Germany the ONLY people who would have received healthcare would have been Germans. Period. No Jews, no Poles, no Czechs, no Gypsies, NO ONE but Germans.


And that's where the fools lose it between the two words socialist and nationalist. If Obama said the only people who will receive healthcare is African Americans THEN we could accuse him of some Hitler-istic ideals, but nothing he has said or done has, in anyway, compared him to Hitler.


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Thu, 08-20-2009 - 11:44am
There was a lot more there to compare.
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Thu, 08-20-2009 - 11:44am

Who? Me?

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Thu, 08-20-2009 - 11:52am

While there might be more Hitler-like aspects from Bush than Obama, I also think that's a stretch to compare the two. Not to defend Bush, but what he did doesn't compare to killing 12 million people in concentration camps, sponsoring scientific research on people w/out anaesthesia or any humanity, systematically and cruelly destroying one culture in the country, etc. I think the horrors of Nazi Germany are so extreme that any comparison pales.

I can see comparisons to how easily people have been misled, though, with the two. Some people are apparently sheep--they're told by Fox that the government wants death clinics and they buy it, hook line and sinker. It reminds me of Ben Kenobi and the Force that can be used on simple, weak minded people.











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Thu, 08-20-2009 - 11:57am

Frank isn't my favorite politician (maybe it's the Jimmy Durante-like voice) but I agreed absolutely when he pointed out that our rights to free speech were clearly on display at the town hall forums.

Another personal anecdote. When my son was sent to Iraq, I was dumbfoozled that so many relatives backed Bush, apparently for the sake of partisan loyalties. Could NOT understand how logic and blood ties could be set aside so easily. In fact, my own father called me a traitor for pointing out the inherent idiocy and immorality of Bush's "pre-emptive" war. Cut me to the quick. But have observed that there are people who truly want to be told what to think, how to act, what to believe. For all his intelligence, my father is one of them. Too much faith in power figures for his own good. Ah well.

The Southern Poverty Law Center reports that militia groups are rising in numbers.
"The center says videos and the Internet are helping right-wing groups reach out to potential recruits. It also says cable television hosts who are using their platforms to spread conspiracy theories are also driving the rise of anti-government sentiments."
http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-08-13-voa36.cfm

Cannot stress often enough that our freedoms are not protected by force of arms, they're protected by exercise and civil civic involvement.

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Thu, 08-20-2009 - 12:08pm
I have a cousin that celebrated Bush's Birthday. He's a Phys-Ed teacher. I have a whole bunch of relatives that are Republicans. Last year quite a few changed parties. The majority are Veterans.
I have another relative that was pro war. I told her to call me when HER son is sitting in the Persian Gulf. She wasn't happy with me.
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Thu, 08-20-2009 - 1:21pm

"Too much faith in power figures for his own good."


That's how it was when I was growing-up along with respect your elders, don't answer back & such.


>"This incendiary mix of political passion, weird thinking and weaponry is likely to explode. Even if it doesn’t, perhaps Americans who are learning for the first time that loose state laws really do allow loaded guns to be carried by just about anyone—to any place—will be shocked. “I think this latest thing with guns at these events just doesn’t meet the smell test with the general public,” Helmke says. “When the general public sees that, it says, ‘That’s not what we want.’‘’"<


From........ Enabling the Gun Nuts


http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20090819_enabling_the_gun_nuts/


New laws are allowing more Americans to carry guns in public. But are gun-carrying protesters going too far?http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0819/p02s01-ussc.html

Some of the armed protester in NH........


Video....


http://www.necn.com/Boston/New-England/2009/08/13/Members-of-Free-State-Project/1250199645.html


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Thu, 08-20-2009 - 1:56pm
Dear sweet heaven.

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Thu, 08-20-2009 - 2:49pm

Lunacy coming from legislators in my own state. Catherine Craybill advocates bullets if they don't get the ballots they want...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/16/catherine-crabill-va-gop_n_235459.html

Catherine Crabill, the Republican Party's nominee for Virginia's 99th District in the House of Delegates, gave a speech at a recent Tea Party event suggesting that Second Amendment rights could be used to defend the anti-tax movement. The strange assertion was picked up by Virginia political blogger Not Larry Sabato.

"We have the chance to fight this battle at the ballot box before we have to resort to the bullet box," Crabill said. "That's the beauty of our Second Amendment rights ... Our Second Amendment rights were to guard against tyranny."

Crabill, who proclaims on her campaign website that "America was founded by right-wing extremists," has already drawn fire for her controversial views. Among other things, she believes the U.S. government played a role in the Oklahoma City Bombing.

"She has stated herself in such immoderate terms that she has made her candidacy almost a caricature," said Westmoreland GOP Chairman Robert Fountain. "Her views will appeal to the faithful, but not to enough people to give us the 51 per cent of the vote we will need to win in November."

UPDATE: Crabill has defended her words in an interview with the Washington Post.

"Those are my convictions," Crabill, 52, said in a telephone interview this morning. "I am a full-blooded, freedom-loving American, and what we're seeing in Washington is domestic terrorism at its worst."

But as a video of some provocative remarks zipped around the Internet, she also worried that she would be caricatured as an extremist. And she said she wanted to make clear that she was not advocating armed resistance.

"I have no desire to see this country erupt in any kind of violent revolution," Crabill said. "I don't even own a gun."