Lashing Out at Critic for Nazi Remark
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| Wed, 08-19-2009 - 11:38am |
You go Barney!!!
Rep Barney Frank SLAMS Women Comparing Obama To Hitler At Town Hall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWwyjwmYMEs
Barney Frank Lashes Out at Critic for Nazi Remark
"On what planet do you spend most of your time?" Frank retorted
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/NATL-Barney-Frank-Lashes-Out-at-Naz-On-What-Planet-Do-You-Spend-Most-Your-Time--53684352.html

Rep. Barney Frank, drawing jeers and cheers at a fiery town hall debate, fired back at critics of President Obama's health care reform plan and launched into a sharp-tongued tirade against a vocal detractor who compared the plan to "Nazi policy."
"On what planet do you spend most of your time?" Frank retorted.
"You stand there with a picture of the president defaced to look like Hitler and compare the effort to increase health care to the Nazis," Frank fumed. "Trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to argue with a dining room table. I have no interest in doing it"
Frank fielded questions on topics from health care reform to federal bank bailouts and didn't back down from critics who opposed overhauling the health care system during a fiery town hall in Dartmouth, Mass., on Tuesday night that drew roughly 500 people and was among one of the most heated yet.



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Thanks for posting this informative piece.
My formative
Healthcare around the world
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8201711.stm
United States - Private system
Private sector funded, with more than half from private sources. Private health insurance available through employer, government or private schemes.
15.3% of population (45.7 million people) do not have health insurance.
Federal government is largest healthcare insurer - involved in two main schemes, Medicaid and Medicare, each covering about 13% of population.
Medicaid - joint funded federal-state programme for certain low income and needy groups - eg children, disabled.
Medicare - for people 65 years old and above and some younger disabled people and those with permanent kidney failure undergoing dialysis or transplant.
Most doctors are in private practice and paid through combination of charges, discounted fees paid by private health plans, public programmes, and direct patient fees.
In-patient care is provided in public and private hospitals. Hospitals are paid through a combination of charges, per admission, and capitation.
UK - Universal, tax-funded system
Public sector funded by taxation and some national insurance contributions.
About 11% have private health insurance. Private GP services very small.
Healthcare free at point of delivery but charges for prescription drugs (except in Wales), ophthalmic services and dental services unless exempt.
Exemptions include children, elderly, and unemployed. About 85% of prescriptions are exempt.
Most walk-in care provided by GP practices but also some walk-in clinics and 24-hour NHS telephone helpline. Free ambulance service and access to accident and emergency. In patient care through GP referral and follow contractual arrangements between health authorities, Primary Care Trusts and the hospital.
Hospitals are semi-autonomous self-governing public trusts.
France - Social insurance system
All legal residents covered by public health insurance funded by compulsory social health insurance contributions from employers and employees with no option to opt out.
Most people have extra private insurance to cover areas that are not eligible for reimbursement by the public health insurance system and many make out of pocket payments to see a doctor.
Patients pay doctor's bills and are reimbursed by sickness insurance funds.
Government regulates contribution rates paid to sickness funds, sets global budgets and salaries for public hospitals.
In-patient care is provided in public and private hospitals (not-for-profit and for-profit). Doctors in public hospitals are salaried whilst those in private hospitals are paid on a fee-for-service basis. Some public hospital doctors are allowed to treat private patients in the hospital. A percentage of the private fee is payable to the hospital.
Most out-patient care is delivered by doctors, dentists and medical auxiliaries working in their own practices.
Singapore - Dual system
Dual system funded by private and public sectors. Public sector provides 80% of hospital care 20% primary care.
Financed by combination of taxes, employee medical benefits, compulsory savings in the form of Medisave, insurance and out-of-pocket payments.
Patients expected to pay part of their medical expenses and to pay more for higher level of service. Government subsidises basic healthcare.
Public sector health services cater for lower income groups who cannot afford private sector charges. In private hospitals and outpatient clinics, patients pay the amount charged by the hospitals and doctors on a fee-for-service basis.
I am a member of Move-On. Went to a rally in the middle of "gun-totin', tax-payin', church goin' America. We lit candles and held signs condemning the war in Iraq. It was held on the well-traveled corner of a major intersection. Nobody jeered, nobody yelled. Some passing vehicles honked in sympathy, some honked in disagreement. That was about it.
The right to rally, to speak out and be heard is one of the freedoms covered in the Bill of Rights. I believe strongly that we should be very wary of limiting those rights (though the gun toters don't seem to consider the "well-regulated militia" section of the Second to be anything more than a meaningless introductory clause). However, when meetings are taken over by the mulish braying and the elephantine trumpeting of self-absorbed individuals to the point that no others can speak, those exhibitionists have taken away the speech freedoms of others. And hauling a firearm to a meeting? That would never be taken as a sign of intimidation*****said sarcastically****!
There will probably be no reply since your post indicates that you're just "slowing down to rubberneck" at the "10 dim bulbs spending a lot of time talking to each other". I'd rather be one of those "dim bulbs" who actually will take the time to write civilly than somebody whose style seems to be of the "hit and run" variety.
Jabberwocka
>>I certainly found more of a comparison to Bush's administration and Hitler than Obama and Hitler. I can't see any correlations between Hitler and Obama at all. I've never felt more like our country was close to fascism than when Bush was in office. <<
ITA
So many people have been compared to Hitler, even George Bush has been compared to Hitler.
Do the accusers actually know who Hitler was?
I experienced similar actions by 'conservatives'.
And hauling a firearm to a meeting? That would never be taken as a sign of intimidation*****said sarcastically****!
I agree.
That's just wrong, imo.
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I can't speak for all "accusers", but, yes, I am aware of who Hitler was and yes I think there are noteworthy parallels as well as absurd links. The key parallel between Hitler and Bush, IMO, was that each wanted and took successful steps toward creating a dictatorship using propaganda. It Bush's case it was the Patriot Act following 9/11- fortunately it went no further than that.
>>On January 30, 1933, President Hindenburg appointed Adolf Hitler chancellor of Germany. Although the National Socialists never captured more than 37 percent of the national vote, and even though they still held a minority of cabinet posts and fewer than 50 percent of the seats in the Reichstag, Hitler and the Nazis set out to consolidate their power. With Hitler as chancellor, that proved to be a fairly easy task.<<
>>On February 27, Hitler was enjoying supper at the Goebbels home when the telephone rang with an emergency message: “The Reichstag is on fire!” Hitler and Goebbels rushed to the fire, where they encountered Hermann Goering, who would later become Hitler’s air minister. Goering was shouting at the top of his lungs,
This is the beginning of the Communist revolution! We must not wait a minute. We will show no mercy. Every Communist official must be shot, where he is found. Every Communist deputy must this very day be strung up.
how was Goering so certain that the fire had been set by communist terrorists? Arrested on the spot was a Dutch communist named Marinus van der Lubbe. Most historians now believe that van der Lubbe was actually duped by the Nazis into setting the fire and probably was even assisted by them, without his realizing it.<<
>>Two weeks after the Reichstag fire, Hitler requested the Reichstag to temporarily delegate its powers to him so that he could adequately deal with the crisis. Denouncing opponents to his request, Hitler shouted, “Germany will be free, but not through you!” When the vote was taken, the result was 441 for and 84 against, giving Hitler the two-thirds majority he needed to suspend the German constitution. On March 23, 1933, what has gone down in German history as the “Enabling Act” made Hitler dictator of Germany, freed of all legislative and constitutional constraints.<<
http://therearenosunglasses.wordpress.com/2008/09/23/how-hitler-became-a-dictator-how-bush-cancels-the-elections/
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