Obama Video: 7 Lies In Under 2 Minutes

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Obama Video: 7 Lies In Under 2 Minutes
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Thu, 10-15-2009 - 11:56pm

Obama Video: 7 Lies In Under 2 Minutes

Lie #4: "Meetings where laws are written will be more open to the public, no more secrecy. That's the commitment I make to you as President." ~ President Barack Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UErR7i2onW0

http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/2009/10/15/obama-video-7-lies-in-under-2-minutes/

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Mon, 10-19-2009 - 1:23pm

((Your insurance company tells YOUR physician EXACTLY what he can and cannot do to you in terms of treatment. That company tells him/her EXACTLY what medicines, procedures, surgeries and rehabilitation you may have. Your physician follows a strict guideline written up by your insurance company when he is providing care for you. It doesn't matter what plan of treatment he thinks would be best for you, his hands are tied and he has absolutely no choice but to give you the care an insurance company (who doesn't know you or care about you) is willing to provide.))

As the wife of a heart surgeon, I can tell you that you are dead wrong on that one. Sorry, but I also am employed in the healthcare industry. I do know a little something about it. Just because that is what Obama has told you happens....it's really not how it works.

Stop drinking the kool-aid.

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Mon, 10-19-2009 - 1:25pm
Then YOU tell
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Mon, 10-19-2009 - 1:41pm
Fed-up doctor sidesteps insurance company limits.

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Mon, 10-19-2009 - 1:42pm

The insurance company usually has to approve treatment, unless you have some kind of Rolls-Royce plan.

For example, after my kid was born, the doctor hit me for several thousand dollars that the health insurance company did not want to cover. I had no idea, since I had been told that everything would be covered. She finally waived the extra fee because she felt sorry for me, I think.

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Fri, 10-23-2009 - 5:02pm
Sorry, but I am not drinking her Kool Aid.
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Fri, 10-23-2009 - 6:58pm

***VA and Indian nation healthcare.***


That would be the VA, that kept my dad alive with lymphatic cancer, diabetes and TIA's for over ten years now? The VA that provides him with far better care than my private, Blue Cross policy EVER gave me? The VA that orders a test or treatment and delivers it, without questioning his Dr., requiring him or someone in his family, to make dozens of phone calls or go through appeals processes, as I have and others with private insurance have, gone through? The VA who treats his cancer with Rotuxin, a chemo drug many insurance companies deem "too expensive" and deny their patients?


My parents both get government healthcare, they both have had cancer, and they both get far superior treatment than anyone I know with private health insurance. Like my friends sister, who had 2 forms of health isurance, was diagnosed with breast cancer, and neither insurance wanted to pay for it, because they each said the other was responsible.


By "Indian Nation Healthcare" are you referring to Chapa De? Who in our region, opened a new clinic last year and already serves over 1,500 native American and low income clients who otherwise wouldn't recieve care? They provide health, gynacology, optomology, dentistry and mental health services.



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Sat, 10-24-2009 - 6:38pm

Interesting that the "tort reform" line is trotted out so frequently. Sure, juries have awarded massive amounts to patients in some instances. But, there have also been cases where awards were far more modest given the lasting effects of malpractice. We do NOT need a "care" system which doesn't care because there are no disincentives or negative consequences.

I'd be really interested to see proof of the claim that: "He has spent more than EVERY PRESIDENT BEFORE HIM ALL TOTALED". Not credible--at all.

We have a diseased health care system. Costs are exorbitant for those patients who lack insurance and too often they resort to putting off care; thus creating situations which require more significant medical interventions, at even greater cost. Insurance is expensive, limited in competition, and lacks portability. Medical costs have far exceeded the rate of inflation. This is NOT solely a function of frivolous law suits, it's a function of inefficiency and greed from numerous participants. We spend more money per patient than any other "first world" nation, without enjoying a greater degree of health.

In the meantime, the expense of insurance is skewering small business owners and keeping them struggling to find some way to ensure their employees' access to health care while lacking the collective bargaining of larger companies. When so much of the nation's economic health relies on those small businesses, the quandary they're in simply must be addressed.

If you're a healthcare executive, hear me. I speak for many who are no longer willing to tolerate the status quo. We're sick, we're tired, and we want significant change. The victim has been bled, bled some more, then bled again; and is damn near moribund. Lose the leeches, NOW. Otherwise, we'll be driven into the arms of single payer government care. All the venal vampires will have to say sayonara to their meal tickets. Can't say that I'd feel any sympathy whatsoever!

Other nations, which have gone to socialized medicine, are seeing much better outcomes for the wellbeing of their citizens. It's time, and past, to ditch what has failed us so abysmally.




Edited 10/24/2009 6:46 pm ET by jabberwocka

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Tue, 10-27-2009 - 5:18pm

I have a couple of minutes so I just had to respond...yes.


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Wed, 10-28-2009 - 11:29am
I always wondered about some of the stuff that comes out of BO's mouth .... according to many posters insurance companies are cheapskates who don't want to pay claims. Yet according to BO some doctors can get $40,000 to amputate a leg and insurance companies are so lax about parting with dough that they'll pay a pediatrician to remove tonsils (of course they'll overlook the fact that ENTs remove tonsils, not pediatricians.)
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Wed, 10-28-2009 - 12:25pm
Has anyone here had a leg amputated? Well my late DH did. He was in an accident. The first charge was $30,000 for the surgeon. Then because infection set in there was an additional charge of $10,000. The hospital bill was well over $100,000. Two completely separate Bills. I am so tired of hearing that the surgeon only makes about $400.00. Bull pucky!! The insurance company would only pay less than $9,000 for a prostatic leg.