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| Fri, 01-22-2010 - 8:23am |
This entry below is a comment from a news message board regarding an article about a woman who was raped in broad daylight on a busy street in Toledo and no one stopped to help her. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34978398/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/
It's bad enough that the women suffered this attack and everyone turned away. Not a single hero among them. Not even a cell phone call to 911. How would these people feel if it had been their daughter or wife or someone they care about?
But what makes my stomach turn in even more is the number of responses like the one below. The premise is if you aren't packing then too bad for you. Don't expect anyone to help you.
Is this what our society has come down to? Have we become so bent on our own personal agendas that it overrides human compassion? We've always heard the term "dog eat dog" but are we truly to that point now?
I realize the post below has a lot of contradictions, but it's indicative of the sentiment for this story. Where is all the cold-heartedness coming from?
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Rule 1. If you don't have a gun, don't attempt to stop a crime, the perpetrator will kill you because they do have a gun.
Rule 2. Physically attempting to stop an assault of any kind will get you arrested by the police and sued in a court of law by the perpetrator for battery or taking the law into your own hands.
Rule 3. The police don't care who is assaulting and who is defending, they say "brawling" and arrest both then the victim has a criminal record, is guilty of bawling and has to do jail with the option of paying the coercion money of a fine to avoid jail.
Rule 4. If you are a witness to anything you will be interrogated at home and at the police station for endless hours and then spend endless hours in court. In the end, if the perpetrator is convicted you will be under the threat of retaliation wherever you go by their gang buddies.
Rule 5. 1 thru 4 means you are arrested and go to jail regardless.
Rule 6. At the very least call 9/11, state a short description of the acts going on and the general address and hang up. If you stay on the line you will be asked to supply a hoard of personal information, name, address, phone number, all that stuff that always seems to end up in the hands of people who want to get even with you for getting involved. Once they have your address they will arrive there and you will be interrogated as if you were part and parcel to the crime, ID, social security number, run through NCIC, et al.
Rule 7. Don't get involved.
The rapist had a pair of scissors. If the victim had been in possession of a legal firearm and wielded it (depending on state law concealed carry permits) she would NOT have been raped. Even a can of spray in his face would have gotten his mind off of any erection long enough for her to run.
1 thru 6 is what you have to suffer because the victim made no preparations for their own self defense

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((It's bad enough that the women suffered this attack and everyone turned away. Not a single hero among them. Not even a cell phone call to 911))
Not quite. From the article:
"Police said several drivers saw the attack and some called 911, but the witnesses were unsure if the public act was consensual and might not have been aware that they were witnessing a rape."
People don't want to get involved. It's often difficult to ascertain exactly what is happening. In this case I would have called 911.
I thought this was an interesting comment......
>"Interesting how ballsy people are when they are on a plane dealing with a crotch bomber with EXPLOSIVES, but a rape on a street corner suddenly strikes them full of fear."<
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((I thought this was an interesting comment......
>"Interesting how ballsy people are when they are on a plane dealing with a crotch bomber with EXPLOSIVES, but a rape on a street corner suddenly strikes them full of fear."<))
Well, that's easy. A bomber on a plane will take down the entire plane...everyone. A woman getting raped on the street....only the people getting "involved" with the crime stand a chance of harm.
I agree that people are often afraid to get involved in other peoples personal affairs or "domestic violence" issues...but there are many cases where people who do get involved are harmed or killed. I guess some people are just too scared to get involved. Who knows.
I would like to think I would get involved....but if I had my children with me...I might think twice. I would certainly call 911 though.
From the article...the police did say that a few people did call for help.
No, I don't think the responses are indicative of the general consensus.
I don't even bother reading the ones at the Houston Chronicle anymore because of the hatefulness of a few that post repeatedly.
I lived in Toledo for 7 years. Many years ago. Back then people lived in their own cocoon. I had neighbors for 5 years and couldn't tell you their names. There was an older woman that lived across the street from me. Her Husband died and I took over a small cake. She was so shocked that I did that. She said she'd lived there for 40 years and not a single other neighbor contacted her. Sad.
My ex-H came running up behind me one day and punched me in the back of the head. Knocked me out. I laid on the front porch for probably 2 hours. This was a busy street. So this story doesn't shock me in the least.
FYI: Ohio is a C&C state.
How horrible for you.
Oh, I agree.
Where I grew-up we knew all our neighbours although not in & out of each others' homes. My mother had many health problems & one lady would come over clean & do errands purely out of kindness. They'd all been through rough times during the war with air raids & after with rationing so
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