Don't Call For Help

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Don't Call For Help
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Fri, 01-22-2010 - 8:23am

This entry below is a comment from a news message board regarding an article about a woman who was raped in broad daylight on a busy street in Toledo and no one stopped to help her. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34978398/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/


It's bad enough that the women suffered this attack and everyone turned away. Not a single hero among them. Not even a cell phone call to 911. How would these people feel if it had been their daughter or wife or someone they care about?


But what makes my stomach turn in even more is the number of responses like the one below. The premise is if you aren't packing then too bad for you. Don't expect anyone to help you.


Is this what our society has come down to? Have we become so bent on our own personal agendas that it overrides human compassion? We've always heard the term "dog eat dog" but are we truly to that point now?


I realize the post below has a lot of contradictions, but it's indicative of the sentiment for this story. Where is all the cold-heartedness coming from?


 







Seld Defense


Pulaski, TN







Judged: 1 1 1


Rule 1. If you don't have a gun, don't attempt to stop a crime, the perpetrator will kill you because they do have a gun.

Rule 2. Physically attempting to stop an assault of any kind will get you arrested by the police and sued in a court of law by the perpetrator for battery or taking the law into your own hands.

Rule 3. The police don't care who is assaulting and who is defending, they say "brawling" and arrest both then the victim has a criminal record, is guilty of bawling and has to do jail with the option of paying the coercion money of a fine to avoid jail.

Rule 4. If you are a witness to anything you will be interrogated at home and at the police station for endless hours and then spend endless hours in court. In the end, if the perpetrator is convicted you will be under the threat of retaliation wherever you go by their gang buddies.

Rule 5. 1 thru 4 means you are arrested and go to jail regardless.

Rule 6. At the very least call 9/11, state a short description of the acts going on and the general address and hang up. If you stay on the line you will be asked to supply a hoard of personal information, name, address, phone number, all that stuff that always seems to end up in the hands of people who want to get even with you for getting involved. Once they have your address they will arrive there and you will be interrogated as if you were part and parcel to the crime, ID, social security number, run through NCIC, et al.

Rule 7. Don't get involved.

The rapist had a pair of scissors. If the victim had been in possession of a legal firearm and wielded it (depending on state law concealed carry permits) she would NOT have been raped. Even a can of spray in his face would have gotten his mind off of any erection long enough for her to run.

1 thru 6 is what you have to suffer because the victim made no preparations for their own self defense

 


 


 

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Sat, 01-23-2010 - 10:31am
This sounds like something that happened to our daughter and her husband several years ago when they were living in the San Francisco area. They were driving one night, stopped at a light, and parked along side the road they saw a woman being beaten by a man. My daughter is the kind that will try to stop any thing like this if she can....but she told her husband to go over and see what was going on. He was a security guard and had a gun in the glove compartment (registered). When her husband got there, he said the guy was strangling the woman and she was trying to get away. Her husband first tried to talk to the man and then when that didn't work, he pulled his gun and told him to let her go. The woman got out of the car and ran. That was when the man told son in law he was a cop and she was a hooker he had arrested. To make a long story shorter....son in law had to go to court. The cop of course insisted he was not beating on the woman and that son in law just pulled a gun on him. Even with our daughter as a witness, the judge took the cop's word and son in law had to pay a hefty fine, had his firearm permit taken away and therefore lost his job and couldn't work as a federal security guard again. In this case, a gun didn't help, in fact, it made things worse for son in law, but at least the woman did get away....whether she was a hooker or not, the cop did not have any right to beat her. But our daughter still is a champion for the underdog and down trodden and gives her time to many good causes.
 
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Registered: 03-18-2000
Sat, 01-23-2010 - 10:43am
Hearing a story like that one can understand why people don't get involved. I guess calling 911 is the safest way of handling matters.

 


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Registered: 01-22-2010
Mon, 01-25-2010 - 9:15am
This is terrible and it does sound like the cop was going overboard in his arrest. What a shame the judge didn't take your SIL's courage and desire to help into consideration. What if the copy had been the one being beaten by a perpetrator? I'll be the judge would have looked at things differently then.
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Mon, 01-25-2010 - 11:05pm
I just felt so sorry for DSIL as he had gone through months of training to be a policeman, couldn't find a job right away and so he was working as a security guard until a police job became available...then this...and of course his law enforcement career was over. DD was upset because she is the one who urged him to "do the right thing" and felt guilty that he lost his means of supporting them. I do believe they would both react the same way if this situation ever happened again. And I do think they both acted like decent human beings.
 
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Registered: 11-22-2009
Tue, 01-26-2010 - 12:00pm

I used to live in NY and once as I was walking I slipped on the ice and fell forward. I was shocked when a tall guy asked me if I was okay. He had his hand out to help me. I got up and told him I was okay.


I really didn't expect anyone to help me.

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