Obama Hating Is Nutty & Dangerous

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Registered: 04-11-2009
Obama Hating Is Nutty & Dangerous
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Fri, 02-12-2010 - 12:38am

It is okay to hate in your heart, but it is NOT okay to hate so much that you risk innocent lives.    This is what that continuous low-level drum beat of hate of Obama produces:


http://www.ktvu.com/news/22465028/detail.html


No Contest Plea In Obama Tattoo Firebombing

February 4, 2010


SALINAS, Calif. -- A man suspected of firebombing a Monterey tattoo parlor after it refused to ink an offensive tattoo targeting President Barack Obama on his chest has pleaded no contest to arson charges.



According to the Monterey County District Attorney's Office, Nathan Augustine, 35, was arrested for the arson in October 2009.



Deputy District Attorney Douglas Matheson said Augustine had confessed to throwing a Molotov cocktail at Creative Visions, a tattoo parlor in Monterey, on July 13. He was also charged with and confessed to torching the Lattitudes restaurant in Pacific Grove on July 15th after he was turned down on a job application.



At the scene of the Monterey fire, investigators found vodka bottles converted into incendiary devices bearing the words "Russian Standard," a swastika, and a symbol similar to the British Union Jack with added diagonal lines through it in red ink handwriting.



Matheson said Augustine had visited Creative Visions and asked for a tattoo of a swastika and an image of President Obama overlaid with crosshairs.



"They refused to give it to him and he caused a little disturbance and left," he said.



Matheson said the arson cases began to crack open after Augustine was arrested in connection with a vandalism spree in Monterey. Between January and April 2009, a number of swastikas were painted around the city, along with the phrases "kill Obama" and "death to Obama."



A search of Augustine's home yielded numerous containers of lighter fluid, gloves similar to those found at Lattitudes and the symbol similar to the Union Jack with the added diagonal lines.



Augustine faces seven years in prison when he is sentenced March 12.>>>


 


 


 

 


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iVillage Member
Registered: 11-17-2009
Wed, 02-17-2010 - 9:14am

((Because the Bush Administration had their noses up Vicente Fox's butt and they encouraged HIM to encourage his poverty problem to come to America and provide cheap labor for the booming housing market that BUSH helped create by overlooking the mortgage scams that eventually collapsed.))

Links please.

Of course, I should have known....it's BUSH's fault.

If this were even remotely true....wouldn't it be feasible that Bush would want to document these workers so he could tax them?

I think you are confusing illegal immigrants with legal migrant workers.

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-11-2009
Wed, 02-17-2010 - 10:20am

I think that there are a number of reasons why illegal immigration has grown (now receding during the recession). You are correct about the businesses that want the cheap labor. But, on the "supply side," NAFTA introduced the type of competition against Mexico's poor farmers and small businesses that they could not meet. They went bankrupt, sold their small farms to rich multi-national corporations and those who would drive those small businesses away, and began to look for work. The problem was that there were far more workers in Mexico than there were well-paying jobs to offer. They came to the USA in much greater numbers than before NAFTA:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/24/business/worldbusiness/24peso.html?_r=1

Basically, capitalistic efficiency and tariffs eliminated jobs in Mexico.

Bush, to his credit, recognized the problem but was ineffective in moving Congress to approve comprehensive immigration reform. On one hand he wanted to serve the corporate desire for cheap labor. On the other, he recognized how both legal and illegal immigration could displace lower-paid US citizen workers. With no workable plan to integrate the workers into our slowly failing economy, we were pitting ourselves against the immigrant population at the same time that trade agreements (globalization) encouraged our corporations to move jobs off shore. People are rightly up in arms over the loss of jobs in the US, and have chosen to blame illegal immigrants. Really, though corporate efficiency and trade/tariff agreements should be "blamed".

 

iVillage Member
Registered: 11-17-2009
Wed, 02-17-2010 - 10:53am

It's always good to take things out of context and ignore the sarcastic responses to me. It makes your point look better, right?

Shall I point out the rudeness and sarcasm directed towards me? Okay....here it is.

"Please stay on topic. We aren't talking about Ayers "

"Here's the definition of hypocrisy since you aren't using it correctly. "a feigning to be what one is not or to believe what one does not; especially : the false assumption of an appearance of virtue or religion"

"Just in case someone skipped their history lesson..."

"I can nearly picture you snickering over a cup of coffee right now, seeing what effect statements like that have on the left"

"You know what is really funny about your statement? I got my news regarding the town hall meetings from Fox and even they couldn't manage to hide the crazy people."

''Thanks for the snarkiness, though."

"Someone has done his/her homework."

"It's a pitiful shame that more people can't or won't wake up to the real facts of the financial collapse and who and what caused it."

""What you don't seem to understand is that this had nothing to do with Republicans being kind and thoughtful to minorities or anyone else"

'It helps if one actually reads my posts."

"LOL! I agree about a sarcasm icon. I think the closest we have the eye roll."

''Could it be you're edging towards genocide?"

""And don't think it couldn't happen if we let those paranoid, crazy conservatives have their way."

""Or maybe the government could insert a micro-chip in all people born here. When they scan a person, if it's not found. Deport them. ((Shaking my head))"

''IDENTIFICATION. What part of that don't you understand? ''

''Yeah, isn't amazing how that keeps getting missed (purposefully?) in numerous posts on this thread.''

''No, her point is, how do you identify them, so you can "cleanse" our country of them''

''Because it's much more purposeful to suggest "rounding up" everyone who might look hispanic as a solution and then attacking those who disagree.''

''Apparently, there are some who think it's a good idea.''

''What part of that don't YOU get?''

'You seem to be hung up on the whole issue of how law enforcement officers are not supposed to ask for ID...''

'you seem bound and determined to find fault with everything that would be legal to do (and would most likely be pretty effective) in favor of rounding up people based on their skin color (totally ignoring the fact that a good portion of illegal immigrants aren't brown) and violating a lot of people's constitutional rights. I think I've got it now.''

''Many ideas have been suggested which you've rejected and the one you're standing by is rounding up hispanics and searching them all ''

''Your idea is to round them all up like cattle, put them on a train and ship them back across the border.''

''See, once again you refuse to even open one eye to an opinion other than your own.''

''If you prefer to live in a police state where, at any given moment, the police can throw you up against the wall, handcuff you and demand ID, then Somalia might be the place for you.''

'If you would like to partake in a Nazi-like environment where the police have the right to raid your home or business without probable cause, I'm sure there's a country somewhere where you'd fit in.''

''My gosh, where have you been the last ten years?''

'''IMO, you have been rude, sarcastic, and have done everything you can to get a rise out of posters here so that you can target them and report them to IVillage. You don't know how to debate, but you certainly know how to argue.''

So...you see....the sarcasm goes both ways. For the most part, I have been accused of saying something that I never once said. Everyone took off on that like a freight train and rolled with it. I am still waiting for anyone to show me where I once said that I supported brown skinned people being rounded up like cattle and deported.

iVillage Member
Registered: 02-20-2007
Wed, 02-17-2010 - 12:50pm
Here's an idea for you......why don't you and the maine coon mom meet at a central location.....hmmmm....mid way between Az & Ga?......how about Little Rock, Arkansas.......maybe even
iVillage Member
Registered: 01-22-2010
Wed, 02-17-2010 - 2:11pm

What does this mean?

iVillage Member
Registered: 02-20-2007
Wed, 02-17-2010 - 2:26pm
I was just making a rather poor, feeble attempt at some humor. I can see it didn't work too well. HORSE is a playground game of basketball. I was offering a challenge to the two of you to settle the dispute about the illegals by facing off in a game is all. I meant no harm......I offer my apologies to you both if either of you took it
iVillage Member
Registered: 01-22-2010
Wed, 02-17-2010 - 2:41pm
I didn't have
iVillage Member
Registered: 03-23-2003
Wed, 02-17-2010 - 5:03pm

I've been following this thread & decided to respond here:


Only "criminal" illegals should be deported. You cannot even think that a brown skinned person who doesn't speak English and has no identification residing in Arizona would possibly be illegal....so we cannot question him. You all realize that officers cannot even ask if they are illegal, right?


Yes, I'm sure we do.


iVillage Member
Registered: 05-23-2008
Wed, 02-17-2010 - 8:42pm

There may be some who feel that way but we can't say all who are in the Tea Party are against Obama.


It is sad that we see hatred signs against Obama.

iVillage Member
Registered: 05-23-2008
Wed, 02-17-2010 - 9:01pm

In WW2, no one knew, at least in my neck of the woods,

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