Cont. or M. Moore discussion arch. board

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Cont. or M. Moore discussion arch. board
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Wed, 03-26-2003 - 11:21am
To Quaft1 regarding my credibility. I don't understand your question. What do I have to prove to you or anyone else on this board about my credibility to state my opinion? In my response to Moores letter I specifically addressed his citation of the Pope, something I found inconsistant with his usual anti-church posture. I therefor questioned that citation since it seemed hipocritical to cite the the Roman church only when convenient.

In the case of Mr. Moore, he is a public figure, an identifiable icon who has clearly stated positions and opinions in the public forum. I don't agree with him, I think he has a very strongly slanted opinion which he expresses by sliding between cute, silly and unfactual hyperbolic statements, and boiler plate left wing rhetoric without distinguishing between them. He offers nothing of defensible substance to the public debate and should be considered left wing entertainment at most. That is my opinion, do I need to convince you of my qualifications to state my opinion?



Asking me what credibility I have in criticizing him is inappropriate. The resulting threads which you shared with Mohadib went in the direction of making a personal attack on me, but did nothing to defend Moores letter. Mohadib is famous on these boards for attacking people with all sorts of sarcastic vitriol without ever really stating anything other than jingoistic rhetoric, is that the camp in which you reside also?

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Tue, 04-08-2003 - 10:35am
I dont know where you think Fox News is available to more people than MSNBC as in my area, they are all part of the same cable package.

With regards to the source, it is the Zogby polls, which tend to be pretty right on the money. Hey, they said that the Presidential elections were going to be really tight, while many others thought it would not be close at all.

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Tue, 04-08-2003 - 2:06pm
rk44, Let me clear this up! It's the conservative Authors who are buying bulk lots of their own books and returning them at a later date, this process inflates the sales numbers. I didn't mean individual buyers were returning books. It was O'Reilly or Hannity who was caught buying thousands of their own books and letting them sit in a warehouse. It's all about how they compute sales numbers, it has to do with shipments from the publisher and not direct sales at the retail end.
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Tue, 04-08-2003 - 2:12pm
Would you please substantiate this accusation? And if you are able to, would you then provide information how the actions of the two authors you cite are representative of all whom you call conservatives?
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Tue, 04-08-2003 - 2:21pm
There is no proof. That is the fundamental problem with his argument.
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Tue, 04-08-2003 - 3:22pm
Here's an article about how the numbers are inflated.

http://www.wnyc.org/onthemedia/transcripts_031602_list.html

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Tue, 04-08-2003 - 3:30pm
Interesting article, but it still does not substantiate your accusations on O'Reilly and Hannity.

Also, if this tactic is so well known, why don't liberals do it?

The two you are accusing really don't need the additional income from the books, as they make good $$$ for their shows, and get paid very well to do public appearances.

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Tue, 04-08-2003 - 3:50pm
This piece, even if accepted at face value, doesn't support your claim that conservatives conspire to buy their own books to move them onto the NY Times best sellers list.
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Registered: 04-05-2003
Wed, 04-09-2003 - 4:23am
Since you seem to put great stock in how well a person is educated, Where was Michael Moore educated and what degrees does he hold? I'd really like to know.
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Registered: 04-07-2003
Thu, 04-10-2003 - 9:17pm
As someone else here observed, some here think that whatever they say is true because they want it to be. Have you noticed that the left never acknowledges that many conservatives are well educated. It has become politically correct to characterize all politically conservative people as morons.
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Mon, 04-14-2003 - 6:29pm
You care what John Grisham says? Doesn't he write fiction?

Annie