Bush Hitler ad on Bush website

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Bush Hitler ad on Bush website
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Fri, 06-25-2004 - 11:40am
It is on the homepage. Opinions??

http://www.georgewbush.com/

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Registered: 06-16-2004
Thu, 07-01-2004 - 9:05am
Someone sent me this recently. Interesting..

The 14 Defining Characteristics Of Fascism

by Dr. Lawrence Britt

Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14-defining characteristics common to each:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism -

Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights -

Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc. TOP

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause -

The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc. TOP

4. Supremacy of the Military -

Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized. TOP

5. Rampant Sexism -

The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution. TOP

6. Controlled Mass Media -

Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common. TOP

7. Obsession with National Security -

Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses. TOP

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined -

Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions. TOP

9. Corporate Power is Protected -

The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite. TOP

10. Labor Power is Suppressed -

Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed. TOP

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts -

Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked. TOP

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment -

Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption -

Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections -

Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

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Thu, 07-01-2004 - 9:18am
Interesting quote I just stumbled across

"The great masses of people. . .will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one."

_Adolph Hitler

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Thu, 07-01-2004 - 10:14am
So what's you're point in posting this?

Renee ~~~

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Thu, 07-01-2004 - 11:14am

It stands for Earth Liberation Front.

The first key to wisdom is constant and frequent questioning, for by doubting we are led to question and by questioning we arrive at the truth.  -
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Thu, 07-01-2004 - 11:39am
Very interesting to see these characteristics listed. Thanks!
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Thu, 07-01-2004 - 12:02pm
Yeah real helpful. All but 2 of them are also characteristic of communism, too.

Renee ~~~

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Thu, 07-01-2004 - 12:06pm
< Ok, then I suggest that the Kerry campain start associating the republicans with every vile thing extreme republicans have said. And while they're at it, they should make the point that McVeigh was a republican, and bring up the name of all other republican mass murders, and ..>

They are perfectly free to do so, it probably would backfire, as most Americans can clearly see the distinction between Tim McVeigh and the Republican party. But when you have Al Gore saying that Bush "dragged us through the mud of Saddam's torture chambers" and "betrayed our country" or Kerry saying that Bush wil "kick your ass" it's not too hard to make the association between their rhetoric and the moveon.org ads.



No, and the Bush campaign has not accused the Dems of committing any crimes, only accused them of engaging in the same sort of hateful rhetoric as the moveon ads, examples of which they put on display for everyone to see and draw their own conclusions. In other words, if the black republican had actually COMMITTED some gang related crimes, it would be perfectly appropriate for the other side to point that out, yes.



No, but this is not a case of guilt by association, it's guilt by participation in the same vile tactics.

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Thu, 07-01-2004 - 12:09pm
I gotta tell you, the fact that Tim McVeigh was a Republican means no more than if Charles Manson was a Democrat. There are evil people of all persuasions.

edited for typo


Edited 7/1/2004 5:13 pm ET ET by liveanew

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Thu, 07-01-2004 - 12:59pm
ELF = Earth Liberation Front

They support destruction as a means to "protect" environmental and animal issues/rights.

http://www.earthliberationfront.com/main.shtml

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Thu, 07-01-2004 - 1:40pm
So what is the problem with it? I think most people will agree that facists and communists are similiar; many even confuse the two. It is not like anyone is comparing the characteristics of a facist government to our government. It is interesting to see how those people have many similar traits and how they decided to run their respective countries.

So I do not understand why you are acting like this is out of place on this thread. It was Bush that put Hitler in his political ad, and nicecanadianlady was just sharing with us somethign about Hitler. No harm done and nothing was implied.


Main Entry: fas·cism

Pronunciation: 'fa-"shi-z&m also 'fa-"si-

Function: noun

Etymology: Italian fascismo, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces

1 often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control

Main Entry: com·mu·nism

Pronunciation: 'käm-y&-"ni-z&m

Function: noun

Etymology: French communisme, from commun common

1 a : a theory advocating elimination of private property b : a system in which goods are owned in common and are available to all as needed

2 capitalized a : a doctrine based on revolutionary Marxian socialism and Marxism-Leninism that was the official ideology of the U.S.S.R. b : a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production c : a final stage of society in Marxist theory in which the state has withered away and economic goods are distributed equitably d : communist systems collectively

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