Double Standards of some Liberals

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Registered: 06-29-2004
Double Standards of some Liberals
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Thu, 07-08-2004 - 1:39pm
I thought this was interesting while driving home from work I heard this whole thing. Tell me what you think.



I was listening to the radio the other day and two men were debating in regards to Kerry. The liberal man was holding a sign that read "Kerry-a war hero"...When asked why he believed Kerry to be a war hero he explained his courage in fighting in Vietnam and that alone should qualify him as being a "war hero"...then the conservative asked him if he was going to vote for Kerry and the liberal man said "Definately!" The liberal man brought up the prisoner abuse in Iraq and how those men and women who performed those war crimes by putting underwear over these prisoners head and humiliating them were a disgrace to the country. He was then asked by the other man if he'd ever vote for any of these men or women that performed such acts down the road for President? The liberal man said "heck no". The other man went on to play a tape where Kerry himself in an interview spoke of the atrocities he and fellow militarymen participated in such as burning down Vietnam villages and other activities that were war crimes while in Vietnam. Kerry with his own words and voice admitted such things happened and do happen in a time of war no doubt about it. ( you could hear the audio tape of his interview) The man then asked the sign holding, Kerry supporting, liberal man how he could vote for someone who actually burned down and killed people in their own villages during Vietnam for President but would never consider voting for those who commited war crimes such as humliation in Iraq in the future as President? Does that make Kerry a war hero he asked? The liberal man was at a loss for words. He contradicted himself...he judged these soldiers in Iraq as a "disgrace to their country" but would vote for Kerry for President of the United States of America.

The reason for posting this story was to give a little insight on the double standards some liberals hold for their own and the mind-set the have.

Sorry so long but it's worth the read :)

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Registered: 05-11-2004
Sat, 07-10-2004 - 2:03pm
"Yes, it looks really grim right now, and all I have heard are a bunch of excuses from them. I can still hope that there is some good left in them to denounce what they did, though. :`("


I hope so too. But I gotta say they seem to be surrounded by people (in their hometown and such) that don't think they did anything wrong. When you are surrounded by people that equate killing Arabs to killing a turkey it's pretty easy to convince yourself that you are right. And those pics we all saw came from soldiers personal collections, they were emailing them around as if they were some sort of trophy they were proud of. While I may cut them some slack that they may have done these things under orders - it's pretty clear (imo) that they loved every minute of it.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Sat, 07-10-2004 - 2:29pm
<<"The fact that cekurs wrote her/ his opinion instead of providing links is nice, but doesn't support your point that Kerry voters all suffer from ABB syndrome.">>...??? Where do I support "my" <<"point that Kerry voters all suffer from ABB syndrome">> even?

In post 87 my point was and is that I got just óne own opinion, which seeing the many democrats on this board is quite curious, wouldn't you agree?

I'll bump-up the thread and see what happens.

Djie

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Registered: 06-17-2004
Sat, 07-10-2004 - 3:24pm

<<The fact that cekurs wrote her/ his opinion instead of providing links is nice, but doesn't support your point that Kerry voters all suffer from ABB syndrome.
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Renee ~~~

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Registered: 05-12-2004
Sat, 07-10-2004 - 7:34pm
Sometimes I think when we believe in something, but have even small doubts, or don't really know why we believe something, we go in search of information that supports our belief, giving us more reason to think we are justified. Sometimes we reject information that is conflicting because it feeds on those doubts that we have.

Nobody really KNOWS anything, anyway, so we need verification. So when you say,

"too bad it isn't happening with the majority of Dems I have met, spoken to, read about or seen...mainly on these very boards...even the intelligent ones fall into the blind voting trap..."

I have to ask myself where you are going to meet these dems, and if you are reading fully the posts that have any validity, or just the rants and raves that you can argue against? (some of those being mine)

Seems to me that you are not really in search of an answer, just someone you can put down and call ignorant.

For what reasons are you voting for Bush? (other than the whole war on terrorism thing well, lets just leave that out for now, ok? )
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Registered: 06-29-2004
Sun, 07-11-2004 - 11:53pm
what's the qualifying factor for not being an ignorant democrat... agreeing with YOU once in awhile?>>

I never said anyone had to agree with me..I am just making a point about how the "majority" and mostly those on these boards vote so blindly and because of not being educated about their "votee" they can accidently contradict themself. I can feel your frustration but this is my observation with a lot of Dems...an example you and others can directly see for yourselves is the example fo those on these very boards.



"I am talking about those people who judge someone and condemn them and base their vote on such when in actuality their party is just as guilty for it too."

Hi, Pot, nice to meet you, my name's Kettle. OH, what's that you say? I'm what??? >>

Why did you take my sentence out of context? Is it easier for you to make a point by doing so? Please give me an example of myself or someone on these boards who has condemned Kerry for doing something but supported Bush for doing the same thing? I am not Pot...you admitted to being a kettle but by no means am I a pot...if I am please support that accusation with some example.


why do you think it is that the thing we hate most about others is a trait we also have?>>

That isn't how I feel...I procrastinate sometimes but I don't hate that about someone else...I try not to be a hypocrit and live my life following at least that basic standard...I practice what I preach and I don't go by do as I say not as I do either. I actually don't hate anything...dislike maybe but not hate for it is too of an extreme word and I tend to think my life shouldn't be wasted in any way through the eyes of hatred.

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Registered: 06-29-2004
Sun, 07-11-2004 - 11:57pm
Exactly...the proof is in the pudding...at least I am not the only one who see's it like it is...that is one of my main points for making the topic. Thanks again for your contribution, as it is always needed and always a pleasant addition :)
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Registered: 06-29-2004
Mon, 07-12-2004 - 12:01am
You're Welcome ;)

Thank you for your intelligent post and finally, finally someone with a "reason" to vote for Kerry, and without sounding "contradictory". Is that to much to ask? I didn't think so :)

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Registered: 06-29-2004
Mon, 07-12-2004 - 12:14am
LOL...I can read your frustration...I do offer advice though when responding with so much "in your face" attitude. Understand my point!!! And for the record I am educated thank you very much...I do know what those things mean but in case you have missed my point...which it seems so ::sighs:: I am not condemning Kerry for what he did in Vietnam nor am I basing my vote on such either....my point is about voting for Kerry for certain reasons (calling him a war "hero" and then condeming someone else for something Kerry did himself but worse in some cases.) This isn't about how I feel about Kerry and Vietnam, but it looks like your die hard support for the man has put blinders on you from the real point and issue that is being discussed. I am not going to rehash all that has been said...I can see you are going to harp on the fact that you think Kerry didn't kill anyone in Vietnam...the truth remains to be seen for neither you nor I were there...and the point still remains that many libs/dems vote blindly while in the same breath accuse Bush supporters of being "blind" even though they has a load full of information and opinions to back up their vote and reasoning for making such a selection of a vote. I hope you understand that you have missed my point almost entirely and at the same time tried to use the good ol' "insult" tactic to make your point seem stronger...I am sorry it came to that. I suggest re-reading my posts and instead of concentrating on one point...read and take into account all of them, preferrably the MAIN ones.
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Registered: 06-29-2004
Mon, 07-12-2004 - 12:37am
LOL...maybe not in that thread but have you a blind eye to the rest of the threads stating the reason for voting for Kerry is because he isn't Bush??? You would be kidding yourself or just in denial if you didn't acknowledge at least that fact to be true.
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Registered: 06-29-2004
Mon, 07-12-2004 - 12:44am
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See I understand where you are coming from ;) I respect your opinion on that but most people don't explain why they like Kerry or are going to vote for him and blaming that on me just isn't quite fair...I only ask for what you just did...it wasn't that hard was it? And I am not that bad am I? I tend to not agree with many Dems but I can't refute or disregard an opinion with substance and education and intelligent reasons for having that POV. It seems to me that this topic has allowed some of those who might not have stated why or didn't know why they were voting for Kerry other than he isn't Bush to look at and state why. I am happy.


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