Kerry's Lying

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Kerry's Lying
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Tue, 07-13-2004 - 9:29am

John Kerry:

"We've got more African Americans in jail than we do in college. That's unacceptable," he added.
In fact, it seems that there are more than twice as many African Americans in college than in jail.


U.S. Census Bureau (2000): African Americans in college: 2,224,181


U.S. DoJ Office of Justice Programs: "Prison and Jail Inmates at MidYear 2003" (p.11): "Table 13. Number of inmates in state or federal prisons or local jails" -- Black Americans in jail: 899,200.


Those nearly 900,000 incarcerated African Americans still represent a tragic waste of lives and potential. But fortunately, things are not nearly as gloomy as John Kerry wants to believe they are.


It's possible that Kerry is basing his claims on other data, but it would be interesting to learn what his sources are.


UPDATE: As a commenter notes below, this Kerry howler was already debunked a month ago. But then why is Kerry still making the same claim today? What kind of an echo chamber is his campaign that none of the staff read Kerry's sharpest critics? Not a good sign for those who look to Kerry to improve intelligence capabilities or cure government agencies of their dysfunctional groupthink culture.


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Sun, 07-18-2004 - 8:02pm

<<.">>.....I too believe my inner instincts, and

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Sun, 07-18-2004 - 9:46pm
I've stopped checking profiles since most people don't seem to have any info in theirs.

"Sprechen zie English" is an expression that I've heard many times before (ALWAYS directed at someone born in the US), and sometimes using other popular languages instead, such as "Parlez vous English"...again not the correct useage, but it's an expression, not a language class test.

If I wasn't apologizing to you, who was I apologizing to?

I'm done with this thread, and soon may be done with this board.

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Mon, 07-19-2004 - 12:00am
Thank you for your further explanation. Now I know (and I will nót forget it lightly! :) that it's a common expression, and how it's used and probably intended.

I had never heard it used in this context before. The rest of that post was pretty condescending as well, and the post following that one wasn't 'hopeful' either, so that's how I read the first line. Not meaning to offend (again?), but just to set the record straight, the correct spelling would be "Sprechen Sie englisch". (in German the 'z' is pronounced 'ts' and the 's' is pronounced 'z' :)).

Djie

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Mon, 07-19-2004 - 12:06am
I have to be honest and make a confession...I didn't mention names in my messages because I was too forgetful to remember the names and too lazy to look them up. I wasn't trying to be oblique and what would be the use of that anyway, since it's obvious who I was talking about! :)
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Mon, 07-19-2004 - 12:17am
LOL! Well here's your well deserved wet noodle treatment "ala Djie" ok?

This is about as mean as I get!!

Djie

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Mon, 07-19-2004 - 12:59am

Thank you that's very kind of you

Djie

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Mon, 07-19-2004 - 2:40am
Don't go hide, I like readign your posts, and you are able to tell some people what they need to hear. We are like minded, and it IS nice when you post something that I woul dnot have thought of.

At the same time, I dont want to be like some posters who tend to double up on a person, (and you are not trying to do that,I don't think) and post stuff to each other to affirm the closed mindedness.

I am not naming anyone or pointing any fingers.

I get argued out. Sometimes I think I argue to a certain point, and when I am tired of arguing, it is time to learn, time to figure out why I am arguing, or why the other person is, or maybe they have a point, (but usually I learn something that has nothing to do with the argument)

Still, get out from under the table. You belong here. you are a good presence.
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Mon, 07-19-2004 - 9:53am
Thanks, I appreciate your kind words.
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Mon, 07-19-2004 - 1:57pm
Glad you decided to stay! :)

Djie

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Mon, 07-19-2004 - 3:44pm
Yup, what she said!! I like your posts too.

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